Tegel - take off and landing at the same time?
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NAIA is scary, period.
Many moons ago on vacation in the US we stayed at a hotel close to the airport. Can't remember the floor, but high up. Fascinating in the evening watching the airplanes turn 180 and line up in two rows, one each side of the hotel and level with our balcony. Sat there with a bottle of single malt and watched for hours. Early breakfast not fun.
Per
Many moons ago on vacation in the US we stayed at a hotel close to the airport. Can't remember the floor, but high up. Fascinating in the evening watching the airplanes turn 180 and line up in two rows, one each side of the hotel and level with our balcony. Sat there with a bottle of single malt and watched for hours. Early breakfast not fun.
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Common at major US airports (eg LAX) is two pairs of close runways either side of the terminals, four in total. Normal that on each pair, as one touches down, generally on the outside, a takeoff starts on the other. Just as the OP described, and similar spacing. Over on the other side of the airport the same thing is going on, quite independently.
The old Chicago O'Hare configuration, until about 10 years ago, was fascinating. 6 runways, in a sort-of Star of David pattern, intersecting, terminals in the middle. They used to use them all at once, both for takeoffs and landings, all very impressively interleaved with one another.
The old Chicago O'Hare configuration, until about 10 years ago, was fascinating. 6 runways, in a sort-of Star of David pattern, intersecting, terminals in the middle. They used to use them all at once, both for takeoffs and landings, all very impressively interleaved with one another.
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In TXL it is down to the experience and assessment of the situation of the tower controller on duty as far as i know. In general a take off clearance is given once the landing aircraft is well below minimum, usually around 100 to 50ft. And yes, in the past they would give the take off clearance earlier as well, which did lead to the unpleasant situation of one aircraft getting airborne while another went around leading to a very low separation (well, loss of separation to be honest), after which they changed procedures a bit. However, since then, traffic has picked up quite a bit which of course puts pressure on all concerned. And the orange bunch apparently quite often bangs on the door of the tower to tell them off for delaying one of their aircraft.
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@Denti; thx a lot for the reply. The way you described the developement of the practice at TXL makes a lot of sense. I have seen similar situations at other airports before, but never noticed it as "this shouldn´t be like this". The distance between the runways was just bigger.
