Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
Reload this Page >

Who decides who makes the announcements?

Wikiposts
Search
Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) If you are regularly a passenger on any airline then why not post your questions here?

Who decides who makes the announcements?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19th Apr 2019, 21:34
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: South of there, north of here
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Who decides who makes the announcements?

On some recent flights with a large UK-based airline we got the usual introduction/route/height etc announcements from the FO in both cases. On another airline it was the captain both times, and I've had cases of captain out, FO back and vice versa.

So who decides, and how?
Company procedure?
Rock-paper-scissors/coin toss?
Mutual agreement as to who has the better microphone voice?
Captain pulls rank?

This is intentionally light-hearted but I'd be curious to see how this gets resolved.

EnglishMartyn is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2019, 21:57
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 1,447
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If it’s my sector I usually ask captain to do the welcome on board PA so I can concentrate on ATC clearance, push back procedures, radio etc. After that I do all the PAs associated with the sector.
Megaton is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2019, 00:41
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Slough, UK
Age: 35
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I fly with the ‘world’s favourite’ (that isn’t anymore).

The general way of operating is ‘your sector, your PA’. However, if there’s some unusual delay going on, I’ll ask the Captain to make a PA as I think it’s courteous to passengers. Likewise, if I’m behind with duties, I might ask the Captain to make a quick PA while I’m finishing up.

Generally most Captains and FOs agree that it’s good experience for the FO to make announcements if it’s their sector. It’s another skill to add to the management of flying the aeroplane.

champ.
champair79 is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2019, 06:49
  #4 (permalink)  

"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: England
Age: 77
Posts: 4,142
Received 224 Likes on 66 Posts
In my old airline, it was always the captain who made the welcome PA, as a matter of courtesy. After that, it was the pilot operating the sector. One strange thing I found with some of the new F.O.s was that while they were happy on the radio, speaking to anyone listening within a hundred miles or more, they were reluctant to do the PA to a few dozen passengers.
Herod is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2019, 08:39
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 318
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just a quick aside if I may. Whilst we were in the departure lounge at Houston many years ago there were lots of tannoy announcements asking individual members of the public to pick up the nearest white phone etc. In amongst all the announcements was one for 'Mr Pickle, Mr Dill Pickle please pick up the nearest phone etc'. We listened quite attentively after that to weed out the real ones from the fake ones. Maybe bored staff or someone trying to win bet of some sort!
yellowtriumph is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2019, 16:54
  #6 (permalink)  
wub
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,216
Received 14 Likes on 7 Posts
wub is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2019, 02:07
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: U.K.
Posts: 1,869
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
At my carrier, the Captain makes the welcome on board PA for the flight crew. He’s ultimately in charge and passengers generally like to hear from the Captain. Very occasionally, the Captain May delegate the PA to the FO...often If the FO is quite senior.

Otherwise, all other flight deck PA’s are handled by the pilot flying the sector.
easyflyer83 is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2019, 16:50
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Potomac Heights
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by yellowtriumph
Just a quick aside if I may. Whilst we were in the departure lounge at Houston many years ago there were lots of tannoy announcements asking individual members of the public to pick up the nearest white phone etc. In amongst all the announcements was one for 'Mr Pickle, Mr Dill Pickle please pick up the nearest phone etc'. We listened quite attentively after that to weed out the real ones from the fake ones. Maybe bored staff or someone trying to win bet of some sort!
Not saying that this was the case here, but airport PA announcements may be coded messages for staff. Such as "Mr. Pickles and party please report to Gate 18" can be code for security personnel to get down to Gate 18 to deal with an unruly passenger. Or "Mr. Chutney and party please report to Gate 18" could be code for medical personnel to get to Gate 18. The goal of all this being to avoid alerting the miscreant or alarming other pax. Note that for coded messages to be effective, the name cue (Mr. Pickles or Mr. Chutney) must be both memorable and uncommon. Using Mr. Smith as a code call is not wise.
SeenItAll is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2019, 20:34
  #9 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: South of there, north of here
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SeenItAll
Not saying that this was the case here, but airport PA announcements may be coded messages for staff. Such as "Mr. Pickles and party please report to Gate 18" can be code for security personnel to get down to Gate 18 to deal with an unruly passenger. Or "Mr. Chutney and party please report to Gate 18" could be code for medical personnel to get to Gate 18. The goal of all this being to avoid alerting the miscreant or alarming other pax. Note that for coded messages to be effective, the name cue (Mr. Pickles or Mr. Chutney) must be both memorable and uncommon. Using Mr. Smith as a code call is not wise.
That could actually be a real person (or persons). If you're not familiar with UK politics, google or Wiki Eric Pickles.
EnglishMartyn is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2019, 03:35
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wherever I go, there I am
Age: 43
Posts: 807
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Otherwise, all other flight deck PA’s are handled by the pilot flying the sector.
Not at my airline, and not at any I've flown for, so not as universal as it may sound.

At my airline, the Captain will do the Welcome Aboard PA unless delegated to the FO. The delegation is usually done nearing upgrade time or on the taxi. While in flight, the Pilot Monitoring completes all subsequent regular PA's. This is to avoid having to transfer control of the aircraft to do a PA. It's easier to hand off the radios to the PF and have the PM "go in the back."

Our training department and ops manuals strongly suggest that the Captain complete any abnormal or emergency PA, regardless of their duties for the flight. As an old chief of mine used to say "In the moment, the passengers want to hear the voice of God; not the recently or soon-to-be departed." I always thought that a little extreme a saying, but it kind of got the point across.
+TSRA is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:01
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Potomac Heights
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EnglishMartyn
That could actually be a real person (or persons). If you're not familiar with UK politics, google or Wiki Eric Pickles.
It could be, but you quoted the announcement as Mr. Dill Pickles, not Mr. John Pickles.
SeenItAll is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:53
  #12 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: South of there, north of here
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SeenItAll
It could be, but you quoted the announcement as Mr. Dill Pickles, not Mr. John Pickles.
No. I quoted the supposed announcement you posted, i.e. "Mr. Pickles and party".
EnglishMartyn is offline  
Old 4th May 2019, 04:40
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Denver,Co USA
Age: 76
Posts: 333
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The captain decides just like everything else. At my old airline the captain usually made any welcome aboard or announcement about delays. We usually flew every other leg, and the pilot not flying did the talking both on the radio and the PA.
Rick777 is offline  
Old 22nd May 2019, 20:44
  #14 (permalink)  
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lincolnshire
Age: 81
Posts: 16,777
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by EnglishMartyn
That could actually be a real person (or persons). If you're not familiar with UK politics, google or Wiki Eric Pickles.
Nah, Wilfred Pickles.
Pontius Navigator is offline  
Old 22nd May 2019, 22:08
  #15 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: South of there, north of here
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
Nah, Wilfred Pickles.
He was rather before my time, sadly...
EnglishMartyn is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.