Injury during aborted landing
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Well, they will have to if your lawyers take the case to court. However, be sure that you have all the evidence to support your case. I'm no lawyer but you're going to find it a hard slog trying to prove the landing was heavy enough to injure 5 discs. Furthermore, you have already admitted that you were not sitting in your seat correctly. That may be used against you.
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I always sit looking forward with belt very tight for both take off and landing for just this reason. I expect I’m unusual in this though. I even place my feet such that I won’t be injured if we stop quickly. I also wonder how the brace position would work out for someone as tall as me.
Parts of the K2neo story do sound a bit tall though.
Parts of the K2neo story do sound a bit tall though.
I don't think anyone will fall for a claim of back injury in a landing that did not damage the a/c or require a heavy check. The g loadings for these are remarkably low, way way below what could be seen as culpable, let alone what is usually believed to injure people. My company had a heavy landing in a 320 that was witin .1 or .2 g of requiring a main landing gear change. No one was injured. The a/c was grounded for some considerable time while Airbus was consulted. istr they hadn't had one that hard before and weren't entirely sure what to do about it.
I think you're on very thin ice here.
I think you're on very thin ice here.
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I don't think anyone will fall for a claim of back injury in a landing that did not damage the a/c or require a heavy check. The g loadings for these are remarkably low, way way below what could be seen as culpable, let alone what is usually believed to injure people. My company had a heavy landing in a 320 that was witin .1 or .2 g of requiring a main landing gear change. No one was injured. The a/c was grounded for some considerable time while Airbus was consulted. istr they hadn't had one that hard before and weren't entirely sure what to do about it.<br />I think you're on very thin ice here.
I can't and neither, I suspect, can you. How deep was the wingtip underground at this angle between seat 12c and the wheel?
What says spinal damage has to be in line with seat 12c and the wheel anyway?
Who says what angle you were sitting at?
You could get spinal damage anywhere in the plane with enough g, regardless of angles between seats and wheels.
And once again, an impact sufficient to damage spinal vertebrae is going to be associated with a major engineering problem. That there clearly was not one is a pretty convincing argument that this injury was not/could not have been caused by the landing you've referred to.
Why was no one else affected, even slightly?
What says spinal damage has to be in line with seat 12c and the wheel anyway?
Who says what angle you were sitting at?
You could get spinal damage anywhere in the plane with enough g, regardless of angles between seats and wheels.
And once again, an impact sufficient to damage spinal vertebrae is going to be associated with a major engineering problem. That there clearly was not one is a pretty convincing argument that this injury was not/could not have been caused by the landing you've referred to.
Why was no one else affected, even slightly?
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I can't and neither, I suspect, can you. How deep was the wingtip underground at this angle between seat 12c and the wheel?
What says spinal damage has to be in line with seat 12c and the wheel anyway?
Who says what angle you were sitting at?
You could get spinal damage anywhere in the plane with enough g, regardless of angles between seats and wheels.
And once again, an impact sufficient to damage spinal vertebrae is going to be associated with a major engineering problem. That there clearly was not one is a pretty convincing argument that this injury was not/could not have been caused by the landing you've referred to.
Why was no one else affected, even slightly?
What says spinal damage has to be in line with seat 12c and the wheel anyway?
Who says what angle you were sitting at?
You could get spinal damage anywhere in the plane with enough g, regardless of angles between seats and wheels.
And once again, an impact sufficient to damage spinal vertebrae is going to be associated with a major engineering problem. That there clearly was not one is a pretty convincing argument that this injury was not/could not have been caused by the landing you've referred to.
Why was no one else affected, even slightly?
So with so much damage how did you get of the aircraft?
I'm assuming telekinesis, but it's just a pet theory.
I do love this repeated BS about the arm-rests being too low for his height, as if that was some kind of culpable negligence. Personally I think he suffered the back injury through falling off a step ladder while trying to reach the top shelf of the Insurance Scams section in the Flywheel Shyster and Flywheel Memorial Library (but again, that's pure speculation on my part)
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I do love this repeated BS about the arm-rests being too low for his height, as if that was some kind of culpable negligence. Personally I think he suffered the back injury through falling off a step ladder while trying to reach the top shelf of the Insurance Scams section in the Flywheel Shyster and Flywheel Memorial Library (but again, that's pure speculation on my part)
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Pain and damage from disc herniation don't function that way. You can blow your disc (in most cases you feel just a short sharp pain in a moment of herniation) and a real symptoms permanent pain, sciatica...appear gradually after in hours or days.
I have many tall friends, obese friends and even short and/or skinny friends but no one has ever moaned about the position of armrests and their contribution to discomfort.. All the more so no one has blamed them for contributing to an injury.
You don't need armrests to sit up straight during landings. Simply put feet at on the floor and press your back against the seat back; don't slouch. This alleged injury was not caused by the landing per se; if it was there would be other injuries and damage to the aircraft. The fact there are none means that this injury was probably an exacerbation of a known pre-existing issue and the OP is hoping to garner some money without good reason.
Most people on here have flown hundreds of times and have at one time or another experienced a hard landing. I have experienced two; one so hard the Lufthansa pilot stood at the cockpit door apologising as we walked off the plane. But no one suffered an injury as a result. This claim is without merit.
You don't need armrests to sit up straight during landings. Simply put feet at on the floor and press your back against the seat back; don't slouch. This alleged injury was not caused by the landing per se; if it was there would be other injuries and damage to the aircraft. The fact there are none means that this injury was probably an exacerbation of a known pre-existing issue and the OP is hoping to garner some money without good reason.
Most people on here have flown hundreds of times and have at one time or another experienced a hard landing. I have experienced two; one so hard the Lufthansa pilot stood at the cockpit door apologising as we walked off the plane. But no one suffered an injury as a result. This claim is without merit.
Disc herniation normally occurs during lifting an object when the spine is curved, in line vertical impact will not herniate a disc. this case lacks any merit.
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k2neno, did you perhaps lift a very heavy suitcase off the baggage belt just after your "heavy" landing? I'm not going to be unkind and suggest that you are trying to con anyone, but it could well be that the injury was caused prior to or post that landing and that your only recall of anything unusual roughly in that period was the landing.
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k2neno, did you perhaps lift a very heavy suitcase off the baggage belt just after your "heavy" landing? I'm not going to be unkind and suggest that you are trying to con anyone, but it could well be that the injury was caused prior to or post that landing and that your only recall of anything unusual roughly in that period was the landing.