Wikiposts
Search

Notices
Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) If you are regularly a passenger on any airline then why not post your questions here?

Low cruise altitude?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3rd June 2018 | 09:10
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 694
Likes: 1
From: US/EU
Low cruise altitude?

Was just tracking my friend's flight today from SVO to LAX on Aeroflot (SU 106), and notice the flight plan that was filed has the cruising altitude of only 29,000 ft. Does that seem a bit low for such a flight. I've flown a lot of flights between Europe and the US West Coast, and seem to recall they all flew at between 36,000 and 42,000 feet. Is there some advantage to the lower altitude? Equipment on this SU 106 flight is 777-300ER.
Mark in CA is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 12:46
  #2 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 2
From: Iraq and other places
Filed altitude is typically just the initial altitude; it might be because the aircraft is very heavy. Usually they'll climb higher through the flight as fuel is burned off.
Katamarino is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 14:08
  #3 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 56
Likes: 1
From: Aberdeen
Perhaps it was that low to catch the jet stream?
Quartz-1 is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 14:37
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 694
Likes: 1
From: US/EU
Originally Posted by Quartz-1
Perhaps it was that low to catch the jet stream?
Wrong direction.

Max altitude, so far, just over half-way there, is 32,000 feet.
Mark in CA is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 15:06
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,507
Likes: 4
From: last time I looked I was still here.
Not sure of the rules anymore, (seem 20 years ago since I was last there) but some routes/airspace need crew & a/c certification. That airspace block used to start above FL290. Thus is the a/c or crew was not certified to enter the vertical block of airspace it had to fly under or over. Or did you say that it subsequently climbed to FL320? That could be a weight issue or it was no longer restricted by airspace. I'm not familiar with the route.
RAT 5 is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 15:37
  #6 (permalink)  
25 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 6,726
Likes: 103
From: The Winchester
FWIW in the general scheme of things F290 as an initial cruising level is definitely unusually low for a 777-300ER operating without any en-route aircraft performance restrictions. Even on an ultra longhaul setvice up near MTOW on a warmish day you’d expect to be intially cruising in the low 30’s.

Maybe there are indeed environmental or airspace issues in play.
wiggy is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 16:23
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 1998
Posts: 451
Likes: 0
From: Kalgoorlie, W.A. , Australia
Quartz-1
Perhaps it was that low to catch the jet stream?.


Originally Posted by Mark in CA
Wrong direction.

Max altitude, so far, just over half-way there, is 32,000 feet.
Logical follow up to those two remarks To avoid jet stream.
Pom Pax is offline  
Reply
Old 3rd June 2018 | 16:25
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: utah
We went down to 280 from JFK to SFO yesterday due to continuous light to continuous moderate turbulence most of the way....that would be a possibility...
atr-drivr is offline  
Reply
Old 7th June 2018 | 04:49
  #9 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 694
Likes: 1
From: US/EU
Just a quick follow-up. That flight eventually climbed to something like 36,000 feet. I also noticed its track started off from SVO, rather than following a "normal" great circle route, much more northerly. I do not think it was weather related. It had the effect that the plane stayed in Russian airspace until over water rather than flying over Finland/Sweden/Norway on its way to Greenland. This must have added some extra distance to the route.
Mark in CA is offline  
Reply
Old 13th June 2018 | 10:32
  #10 (permalink)  
Community Builder
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 153
Likes: 287
From: Hawaii Island
Many years ago I used to fly regularly between Chicago and Honolulu on American's now obselete DC-10s, and the altitude they flew was regularly 29,000 feet - it was to avoid headwinds in the jet stream. Just two months ago I flew from LA to Honolulu at 30,000 feet for the same reason. That was an A321. Yesterday's flight was 32,000 feet.
Hokulea is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.