Budget -APD increased on Business Prem Econ & first
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Budget -APD increased on Business Prem Econ & first
Short-haul APD rates for 2019-20 will remain frozen as they have been since 2012.
The long-haul rate for economy passengers will be frozen at the 2018-19 rates while the rates for premium economy, business and first class will increase by £16 and for those travelling by private jet by £47.
The long-haul rate for economy passengers will be frozen at the 2018-19 rates while the rates for premium economy, business and first class will increase by £16 and for those travelling by private jet by £47.
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Does this not only apply to flights leaving English and Welsh airports? The APD powers have been devolved to Scotland and the plan here is to either half or scrap it and NI has no or lower APD on long haul routes anyway, doesn't it? Or was the only for BFS-EWR when it was on the go?
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First and Business I agree with, but why 'premium economy'?
Adding another £16 to a Y+ price is going to have a much larger dissuasive effect than adding it to a F price. £156 is a hefty whack for a long haul ticket.
All the media says 'APD frozen', but they lie.
Adding another £16 to a Y+ price is going to have a much larger dissuasive effect than adding it to a F price. £156 is a hefty whack for a long haul ticket.
All the media says 'APD frozen', but they lie.
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Looking across the newspaper frontpages, confirms the view that the govt ensured that all the bad news was leaked steadily over the last few weeks a bit at a time to make sure there was no big explosion. THEN all the 'good' news was released in the budget to make a happy explosion. 
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Why agree even in First and Business. This just gives another competitive advantage to those airlines below the 'longhaul' threshold thus making LHR an even less attractive place to one stop transit?
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It makes me ashamed to be British... we never had APD at all until fairly recently, then "we" introduced it, and soon became one of, if not the, highest rate in the entire world. Our governments have been far too greedy imposing new taxes on us at alarming rates.
I can remember when our standard VAT rate was 8% and it's now 20% :-(
I can remember when our standard VAT rate was 8% and it's now 20% :-(
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And people live longer, they get free bus passes, we send 50% of the kids to UNi rather than up chimneys and there is a large body of opinion on here that we should spend more money on defence
The Cash has to come from somewhere......................
The Cash has to come from somewhere......................
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As F/J demand is a lot less price related. These Pax less likely to divert via a European airport to save a few pounds. Airlines might have to reduce their price by an equivalent amount, but probably won't affect demand, too much.
For Y+, a different story.
For Y+, a different story.
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It makes me ashamed to be British... we never had APD at all until fairly recently, then "we" introduced it, and soon became one of, if not the, highest rate in the entire world. Our governments have been far too greedy imposing new taxes on us at alarming rates.
I can remember when our standard VAT rate was 8% and it's now 20% :-(
I can remember when our standard VAT rate was 8% and it's now 20% :-(
And yes, Heathrow Harry, I, Personally don't care about a slight increase in my income tax as the benefits I personally get from other polices outweigh the tiny amount more I'll pay.
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This budget - like most - was aimed at their supporters and that means their newspapers. The time of trying to plan 10 years ahead and lay solid foundations are long gone. Besides, the Chancellor wanted to keep his job so did the usual shuffling of furniture.
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I can't see how they can claim to be making Britain "global" when the chancellor has made it more expensive to go long haul. Can anyone work that one out?
And yes, Heathrow Harry, I, Personally don't care about a slight increase in my income tax as the benefits I personally get from other polices outweigh the tiny amount more I'll pay.
And yes, Heathrow Harry, I, Personally don't care about a slight increase in my income tax as the benefits I personally get from other polices outweigh the tiny amount more I'll pay.
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But anyway, APD. This budget still applies to Scotland as although it has been devolved, it is currently on hold due to issues surrounding EU state aid rules and the removal of APD for Highlands and Islands flights. Personally, that sounds like a bit of a cop out as for years we have had no APD on those routes and I don't recall the UK government facing trouble with this matter when it was in control nor when they devolved the power to NI for that specific EWR route. But, apparently, it is a big enough issue to cause a stop to the plan for now.
about APD.
