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Old 14th Dec 2016, 13:42
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BA Cabin Crew strikes are on the cards

I'm not sure if this is in the right forum, but no doubt the mods will move it as they see fit. In any case, if this happens it will affect a potentially large number of SLF:

British Airways cabin crew to strike - BBC News
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Old 14th Dec 2016, 14:41
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Sleeping in their cars because they can't afford the petrol to drive home? Surely that can't be a common occurrence?
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Here we go again, Unite strikes again. Fortunately mixed fleet only make up a reasonably small % of cabin crew.

Both Unite & the mixed fleet crew members have been happy with the terms & conditions for several years so why strike now?

Surely it couldn't be anything to do with left wingers cooperating with Aslef etc to cause a "Winter of Discontecnt"??
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Old 15th Dec 2016, 09:18
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How much is "not at all well paid"?
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Old 15th Dec 2016, 09:28
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Aren't many many jobs "not at all well paid"?
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Old 15th Dec 2016, 09:39
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The BBC article tells us "just over 12,000" plus 3.00 per hour flying pay.
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But it's the perfect opportunity for the girls to marry a pilot and be set for life.
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Old 15th Dec 2016, 10:29
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OK, so factoring in the alleged 3/hour flying pay, your gross income might be about 18,000 per year.

I personally don't think that could be called "well paid," considering the responsibilities, requirements and what you have to put up with day by day.

I know I would have trouble keeping body and soul together on such a salary. Perhaps I'm just fortunate though. (No irony intended).

I think to claim that Unite have been "happy" for several years is not a reasonable or logical conclusion. There comes a time when matters become intolerable. To take the nuclear option of striking has to remain a last resort rather than it being the very first thing that CC do. I'm sure they are quite aware that every open job vacancy even for mixed fleet is massively oversubscribed, which does nothing for the strength of their position even when considering a strike.

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Old 15th Dec 2016, 16:36
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I'm sure they are quite aware that every open job vacancy even for mixed fleet is massively oversubscribed, which does nothing for the strength of their position even when considering a strike.
What's the actual turnover of staff though. Maybe publicising those figures would drastically bring the oversubscription down.
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I gave up on BA some years ago. But this is just another reason to avoid them.
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Old 16th Dec 2016, 22:38
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We initially lost quite a lot of crew to mixed fleet but that was stemmed once crew realised it wasn't such a great deal. Ironic that joe public actually think that low cost crew earn very little which is far from the truth. Not to mentioned with little nightstopping their pay is pure remuneration and not expenses. The fact that joe public automatically believes that BA crew are all well paid won't help their cause. That said, the mixed fleet contract isn't great and something needs to be done to address the issue.
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Your contempt for the customers is clear, but how about putting some sourced numbers on those claims?

It has to be said that in any situation where thousands of people ARE banging on the door for those jobs on the current terms, the case for forcing an improvement can't be seen as a strong one...
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 10:20
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Not a single one of them was forced to apply let alone accept the offer. If noone applies for these jobs the salary will go up. They do and it hasn't.
Have you been reading the Mike Ashley Book of Industrial Relations ?
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 11:05
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Not a single one of them was forced to apply let alone accept the offer
Well, there can be grounds for saying that. On the other hand one can say that people applied based, in part, that they had 25,000 salaries dangled in front of them. Then they found 12,500 was more typical.
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If they feel they can command more, is anyone forcing them to stay?
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 12:25
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The roles were advertised as 21-25,000 pa.

This is incredibly inaccurate and untrue. 10-12,000 pa. is more commonplace and hence the issue.

How would you feel if you applied for a job advertising 30,000 but as soon as you start you find they're only paying 20,000. Quite a substantial difference for anyone.
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One would have thought that the applicants would have read the contract conditions before they signed on the dotted line.
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I do not know where the sum of 30K came into it. I was involved in MF induction days and pay figures were not discussed. Whatever, the individuals were well aware that the starting figure was 12K, otherwise they would not have signed a contract!
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British Airways cabin crew to go on strike next week in pay dispute

About 2,500 members of BAs Heathrow-based mixed fleet to walkout for 48 hours from Tuesday after rejecting latest offer
https://www.theguardian.com/business...in-pay-dispute
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