Hand luggage in emergency evacuation
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
From: Sweden
Interesting question.
west lakes, would it be possible to stash one-two days worth of supplies into one of these kind of bags (sorry, don't know the English word... ):
I would like to say it could fit in your front seat pocket, depending on size. What about putting it on the floor? Is it fragile? Could you double use it as a head rest?
This is small and handy and a far cry from the women going down the chutes with their entire shoe collection.
west lakes, would it be possible to stash one-two days worth of supplies into one of these kind of bags (sorry, don't know the English word... ):
I would like to say it could fit in your front seat pocket, depending on size. What about putting it on the floor? Is it fragile? Could you double use it as a head rest?
This is small and handy and a far cry from the women going down the chutes with their entire shoe collection.
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: On the western edge of The Moor
would it be possible to stash one-two days worth of supplies into one of these kind of bags
I'd probably do something using one of these
As I already have a couple
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: essex
Thread drift?
I wonder whether our concern for people with medical conditions has got us away from the original point. Sure you can keep important documents and medications on your person if you think ahead. My point originally was that if the overhead lockers were centrally locked, would this certain knowledge have a positive effect on SLF behaviour? Is it worth trying?
Coupled perhaps with an announcement 'Those who wish to take hand luggage with them should remain seated until all other passengers have left the aircraft'.
Coupled perhaps with an announcement 'Those who wish to take hand luggage with them should remain seated until all other passengers have left the aircraft'.
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 0
From: Confoederatio Helvetica
Rethymnon
Google pictures of the Asiana crash at SFO and see if you can find any pictures of the interior. Many of the overhead bins broke open and deposited their contents into the cabin.
While a severe impact almost everyone survived.
Google pictures of the Asiana crash at SFO and see if you can find any pictures of the interior. Many of the overhead bins broke open and deposited their contents into the cabin.
While a severe impact almost everyone survived.
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 0
From: Confoederatio Helvetica
Just out of curiosity, can someone say what the regulations permit passengers to take with them in an emergency evacuation. That is outside of what they have in their pockets. I 'think' it is nothing, not even a small bag suggested above, or a small handbag.
Paxing All Over The World
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,842
Likes: 328
From: Hertfordshire, UK.
The other event we have seen in recent times is when pax open emergency exits without being instructed. It may be that there has been a precautionary landing and, whilst the crew are evaluating the situation - some pax opens the exit door and blows the slides.
Then watch the rest of the pax go loopy and follow them. No crew is going to be able to stop them.
Then watch the rest of the pax go loopy and follow them. No crew is going to be able to stop them.
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: On the western edge of The Moor
The other event we have seen in recent times is when pax open emergency exits without being instructed
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: The right side of the Pennines
I have a "uniform" shirt purchased from a Travel Emporium selling items essential for camping and long safaris in Darkest Africa, that I always travel in, this has many voluminous pockets, some zipped, into which I decant passports, credit cards, tickets, travel itinerary, cash, essential pills ( complete with prescription to satisfy the most unreasonable drug Police) etc. etc. that I consider essential for an evacuation and enforced stay in inhospitable - i.e. dealing with banks and bureaucracy following a disaster - terrain.
A PITA to unload and reload to pass through security, and creates a minor bottleneck - tough, it's "their" system. All largely undetected to the casual glance of a passing mugger or baggage checking cabin crew, and the increased weight will assist my descent down the chute.
Don't fly.
A PITA to unload and reload to pass through security, and creates a minor bottleneck - tough, it's "their" system. All largely undetected to the casual glance of a passing mugger or baggage checking cabin crew, and the increased weight will assist my descent down the chute.
So come on what is the revised suggestion?
Last edited by YorkshireTyke; 26th December 2014 at 22:00.
Joined: Aug 2000
Aviation Qualifications: Spotter
Posts: 2,143
Likes: 4
From: EGGW
If you want to get items/bags out of the overhead lockers during an emergency evacuations may l suggest the following.
1. Always sit in a window seat, so you will not get in the way.
2. Exit the a/c after everyone else.
Remember if someone goes out the door with a bag and rips the slide, no one is going out that exit after you have.
One other issue l have noticed over the years, more and more emergency evacuations are taking place for problems like hot brakes and engine failures. Years ago the Captain would use his experience and common sense and wait for the emergency services to attend the incident.
I have read reports of air-conditioning ducts rupture while the a/c is on stand, sending clouds of dust into the cabin and the crew blowing the slides.
Sometimes l wonder if in an emergency evacuation, l might sit tight and wait for everyone to get out before deciding if l want to get out or not.
1. Always sit in a window seat, so you will not get in the way.
2. Exit the a/c after everyone else.
Remember if someone goes out the door with a bag and rips the slide, no one is going out that exit after you have.
One other issue l have noticed over the years, more and more emergency evacuations are taking place for problems like hot brakes and engine failures. Years ago the Captain would use his experience and common sense and wait for the emergency services to attend the incident.
I have read reports of air-conditioning ducts rupture while the a/c is on stand, sending clouds of dust into the cabin and the crew blowing the slides.
Sometimes l wonder if in an emergency evacuation, l might sit tight and wait for everyone to get out before deciding if l want to get out or not.
Paxing All Over The World
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,842
Likes: 328
From: Hertfordshire, UK.
This is interesting. Right on cue this week, we have an evac (no fire) as the a/c ran off the end of the runway in monsoon rain. The thread is running in Rumours & News.
The picture shows (as we now expect) someone has used their mobile BUT of the pax already out - no hand baggage.
http://manila.coconuts.co/2014/12/30...-kalibo-runway
Further, this is quoted in the thread:
My emphasis to link to this thread.
The picture shows (as we now expect) someone has used their mobile BUT of the pax already out - no hand baggage.
http://manila.coconuts.co/2014/12/30...-kalibo-runway
Further, this is quoted in the thread:
According to Jet Damazo Santos, a journalist from Rappler Indonesia, passengers had to leave the aircraft using its emergency slide.
"Engine was shut immediately, we were told to leave bags, deplane asap. Firetruck was waiting. Seems handled well," she posted on her Twitter account. "Nobody seems to be hurt. Weather was bad because of #senangph. Plane came to a very abrupt stop."
"Engine was shut immediately, we were told to leave bags, deplane asap. Firetruck was waiting. Seems handled well," she posted on her Twitter account. "Nobody seems to be hurt. Weather was bad because of #senangph. Plane came to a very abrupt stop."
