Korean Air VP goes nuts over nuts
The reason South Korea can do this exemplary engineering is because of the type of efficiency insisted on by people like Heather Cho.
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My answer to your question is yes. While you digest this you may care to reflect on why South Korea as a technically advanced nation is at the top of the ladder while your own country is on a lower rung. Absit Invidia.
My answer to your question is yes. While you digest this you may care to reflect on why South Korea as a technically advanced nation is at the top of the ladder while your own country is on a lower rung. Absit Invidia.
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Which ladder? (There are more than one). In certain fields, Korea may well enjoy an advantage over other nations; In other fields this may possibly not be the case. Surely national quality of life i.e. a cocktail of criteria is a subjective assessment and therefore difficult sensibly to compare.
If the price of progress towards the state of Nirvana-like perfection that is Korea is that people like Ms Cho can bully the small people with impunity, then that may not be a price that everybody is willing to pay.
Just sayin'
If the price of progress towards the state of Nirvana-like perfection that is Korea is that people like Ms Cho can bully the small people with impunity, then that may not be a price that everybody is willing to pay.
Just sayin'
She's bitten the bullet
Korean Airlines nut rage executive Cho Hyuan-ah apologises | Daily Mail Online
'I am so ashamed': Head bowed, daughter of Korean Air chairman resigns and makes humiliating public apology
My answer to your question is yes. While you digest this you may care to reflect on why South Korea as a technically advanced nation is at the top of the ladder while your own country is on a lower rung. Absit Invidia.
Seems that her father is none too pleased with the way she has achieved "efficiency" for the airline: more likely brought it into disrepute.
Folk who behave this way deserve to get their comeupance.
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Folks - the discussion of the Korean Air peanuts incident has been fully covered.
If you want to discuss the pros and cons of Korean society and it's place in the 21st century - please open a thread in Jet Blast.
If you want to discuss the pros and cons of Korean society and it's place in the 21st century - please open a thread in Jet Blast.
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New information has come to light in this BBC report. BBC News - Korean Air executive 'made steward kneel over nut rage'
It may (perhaps) be something of a turning point for Korean Air, although too early to tell. However, I have reopened the thread BUT on topic please.
It may (perhaps) be something of a turning point for Korean Air, although too early to tell. However, I have reopened the thread BUT on topic please.
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Unbelievable story, forced to kneel and all.
The Captain should have refused to return to the gate, un-necessary heating of brakes and tires before a high speed take-off.
Probably afraid of his job, poor little man.
The Captain should have refused to return to the gate, un-necessary heating of brakes and tires before a high speed take-off.
Probably afraid of his job, poor little man.
Didn't the Japanese used to make POWs kneel before chopping off their heads? Maybe she had been watching a WWII movie!
Nevertheless she showed herself up as a complete idiot and deserves everything she gets.
Nevertheless she showed herself up as a complete idiot and deserves everything she gets.
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A former Korean Air executive has tried to apologise in person to two flight attendants for the way she treated them over how she was served nuts.
Heather Cho visited the homes of the pair - but both were out, so she left them a note instead.
BBC News - 'Nut rage': Former Korean Air executive visits air stewards
Heather Cho visited the homes of the pair - but both were out, so she left them a note instead.
BBC News - 'Nut rage': Former Korean Air executive visits air stewards
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Maybe there is a silver lining here
I see a future nut industry spokesperson position for the former Korean Air exec. 
Sales of macadamias soar in Korea after nut rage
Sales of macadamias soar in Korea after nut rage
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It seems to me that right from the very onset this affair is a case of trial by media. Mob mentality (including pprune) voicing the opinions of a minority group who think they know it all.
Heather is Korean bourgeois by birth and the Korean people accept and understand this. It would not be amiss if you pprune Judge Jeffreys who really don't understand the culture back off and leave the lady be.
Heather is Korean bourgeois by birth and the Korean people accept and understand this. It would not be amiss if you pprune Judge Jeffreys who really don't understand the culture back off and leave the lady be.
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I think that is a reasonable statement of how things might be viewed, Ocean Person, in Korea. But ...
However, since the woman made a public apology and resignation - that indicates that the airline is trying to meet the international 'Western' norms of behaviour. Just because this kind of bourgeois behaviour is understood by modern Koreans - it doesn't mean they want it to continue.
We used to have a lot of that kind of behaviour in the UK but it has reduced by a very considerable amount and is not tolerated.
- The airline sells itself as being a global company.
- They market themselves to the 'Western World '.
- They want to be seen as being part of the top rank of carriers.
- They are members of SkyTeam.
- They are the Korean 'flag carrier' and represent their country to the rest of the world.
However, since the woman made a public apology and resignation - that indicates that the airline is trying to meet the international 'Western' norms of behaviour. Just because this kind of bourgeois behaviour is understood by modern Koreans - it doesn't mean they want it to continue.
We used to have a lot of that kind of behaviour in the UK but it has reduced by a very considerable amount and is not tolerated.
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Heather Cho referred to prosecutors. Korean Air face US$ 2 million fine, flight suspensions:
South Korea investigate Korean Air over Heather Cho outburst of nut service; company faces $2m fine - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
"As it has been confirmed that (Heather) Cho raised her voice and used abusive language as testified by some flight crew members and passengers, we will report her to the prosecution for potential violation of aviation safety law," the transport ministry said in a statement.
The ministry said Korean Air also violated aviation law and it is reviewing punitive measures for the airline, which could include flight suspensions and a fine of up to $2 million, the statement said.
The ministry said Korean Air also violated aviation law and it is reviewing punitive measures for the airline, which could include flight suspensions and a fine of up to $2 million, the statement said.
Ocean Person should well remember much outrage at the Little Spoilt Princess was from S.Korea.
Most people I know in Korea no longer tolerate people who think they are privileged - she's lost her job, brought shame & loss of face on her family & the airline and the airline is going to face a fine & suspensions.
Ocean Person is very much in the minority on this.
Most people I know in Korea no longer tolerate people who think they are privileged - she's lost her job, brought shame & loss of face on her family & the airline and the airline is going to face a fine & suspensions.
Ocean Person is very much in the minority on this.
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Korea is also still reeling from the tragic sinking of the MV Sewol, with many blaming the (then) company Chairman, business tycoon Yoo Byung-eun, and his children -- who were all listed as company executives / major shareholders.
Som-Na, the tycoon's daughter, lived lavishly in France before being arrested earlier this year on embezzlement charges. She is currently in the news as she is fighting her extradition back to Korea.
So it's against this backdrop that we have the nut-rage sensation Heather Cho, the privileged daughter of another transportation tycoon. I think ordinary Koreans are resentful of the nepotism and corruption they perceive in large Korean corporations, in government, politics, etc.
It didn't help that KAL and the Korean transportation authorities initially tried to "cover up" Ms. Cho's misdeeds by essentially blaming the purser. After a huge backlash, now there is pressure on the authorities to appear tough in dealing with Ms. Cho and Korean Air.
Som-Na, the tycoon's daughter, lived lavishly in France before being arrested earlier this year on embezzlement charges. She is currently in the news as she is fighting her extradition back to Korea.
So it's against this backdrop that we have the nut-rage sensation Heather Cho, the privileged daughter of another transportation tycoon. I think ordinary Koreans are resentful of the nepotism and corruption they perceive in large Korean corporations, in government, politics, etc.
It didn't help that KAL and the Korean transportation authorities initially tried to "cover up" Ms. Cho's misdeeds by essentially blaming the purser. After a huge backlash, now there is pressure on the authorities to appear tough in dealing with Ms. Cho and Korean Air.
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The tall poppy syndrome and or the Law of Jante must have taken over from the normal common sense of the South Korean people, modernity prevails with Margaret Thatcher's words of "Let your tall poppies grow" out the window.
This entire affair is a charade and when the dust settles I sincerely hope the lady has her dignity restored.
O.P.
This entire affair is a charade and when the dust settles I sincerely hope the lady has her dignity restored.
O.P.
