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Old 19th Aug 2014, 20:39
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now OUT time is when you actually move the a/c, I think 3 meters
Dammit! They're on to us! Go to Plan 99!
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Very interesting. Wife is due to depart this evening on BA025. Reading your lines about, what in my job, is called service level agreements, just shows how common the practice is of manipulating the system, to get SLA's within time and budget.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 15:25
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Originally Posted by Basil
Dammit! They're on to us! Go to Plan 99!
- what are BA LHR tuggies charging these days for a 3mtr push?
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 13:33
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Reading your lines about, what in my job, is called service level agreements, just shows how common the practice is of manipulating the system, to get SLA's within time and budget
If you want to see an art form made out of SLA manipulation just look at the London Underground.

Pretty much only drivers going on strike or power going off will cause them to admit a "severe delay" .... everything else just gets brushed off as a "minor delay" ... but most of the time they figure out how to massage the SLAs so they can call it "good service" ....
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 13:45
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what are BA LHR tuggies charging these days for a 3mtr push?
Further to the above AFAIK the OUT time trigger event is airline specific, I haven't had a chance to ask around about what we use (yet) but it's possible there's no need to negotiate with the BA tuggies and plan A may well still work......
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 15:05
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spanners may well be right, but it USED to be as you say, Plan A
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 23:41
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Spanners,
Not so on the 777, just doors closed and brakes released (even momentarily)
Trust me..........especially when I'm on overtime!!!!
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 23:45
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Cairo was always an interesting one, particularly at school holiday time when the teachers were going back and forth. Remember a very optimistic load sheet lady looking at me one day, with a big smile, some fifteen minutes after scheduled departure and saying, "Can we have an on time departure captain?". Yerr, right!


Due to slots/congestion getting an on time push at LHR going to SIN was rare but arrival was invariably on time or early.
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Old 28th Oct 2014, 17:04
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Originally Posted by Jn14:6
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Not so on the 777, just doors closed and brakes released (even momentarily)
Trust me..........especially when I'm on overtime!!!!
As someone mentioned it may well be airline specific, ours used to be doors closed etc.
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Old 28th Oct 2014, 19:24
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I doubt carriers would ever agree to a single, unified, understanding of 'departure' and 'arrival' because, some of them would have their timings get worse and some would have them get better.

For myself, I think that, for all the shouting about good time keeping by the kids in PR and consumer groups - the public will generally go for the lower price and accept the delays!

For all that, delays are endemic to the business and are not going to improve - particularly in the UK and Europe.
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