Swiss 146 engine explodes at London City
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It is all over twitter: https://twitter.com/dbpromotionsca/s...14601016901632
https://twitter.com/FloggsJoe/status/449215638381531136
Some tweets from people there, people on the plane and some with photos.
https://twitter.com/FloggsJoe/status/449215638381531136
Some tweets from people there, people on the plane and some with photos.
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I witnessed the whole event. The Swiss RJ 100 was at full power with brakes on at the threshold of runway 09. There was then a load bang followed by quite a lot of flames from number 4. Chutes then deployed and pax evacuated via the slides.
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So, we have a picture seemingly showing escape slides out and as has already been noted passengers with hand baggage.
No sign that I can see of any fire truck. Odd?
No sign of anyone marshalling the passengers. Odd?
Am I expecting too much too soon after an incident?
What should happen?
No sign that I can see of any fire truck. Odd?
No sign of anyone marshalling the passengers. Odd?
Am I expecting too much too soon after an incident?
What should happen?
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Grabbing hand luggage and taking a photo (if not a selfie) just after leaving the aircraft seems to be the latest "to do" thing looking at the last lot of accidents.
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Grabbing luggage from the overhead has been going on (or attempted) for a long time in cases of evacuation. It's the "my luggage is more valuable than my or your life" syndrome.
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Well of course they will grab their hand luggage
This has been gone over time and time again here.
Modern passengers are not stupid
Their hand luggage contains their most expensive and valuable/hard to replace stuff: and they know the compensation limits
They are not risking the hand baggage being returned to them somewhat later but curiously 'missing' some stuff from inside it or with some stuff now mysteriously 'broken'.
.....and then they will have to argue the toss endlessly with some insurance company about exactly when this happened and probably loose out in the end.
So provided the plane is not disintegrating around them they are going to grab their stuff and run.
This has been gone over time and time again here.
Modern passengers are not stupid
Their hand luggage contains their most expensive and valuable/hard to replace stuff: and they know the compensation limits
They are not risking the hand baggage being returned to them somewhat later but curiously 'missing' some stuff from inside it or with some stuff now mysteriously 'broken'.
.....and then they will have to argue the toss endlessly with some insurance company about exactly when this happened and probably loose out in the end.
So provided the plane is not disintegrating around them they are going to grab their stuff and run.
Modern passengers are not stupid
"Can planes land on clouds"?
"If the plane is on fire, can the pilot just not slow down so we can jump into the water gently"
"or fly upside down if the wheels are stuck down and wont go up"
oh yes... I beg to differ.
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I consider myself to be in the category of 'seasoned traveller' and I wouldn't hesitate to leave all my carry-on baggage in an evacuation situation.
I always keep my passport in a trouser pocket, along with my wallet and phone; everything else, computer, iPad, etc etc etc, is not that important to me and is also backed up somewhere else so is not to be worried about.
In fact, I'd probably get into a spot of bother in such circumstances because I would not suffer the stupidity of these people and that could involve physical action, especially if such people were blocking the aisle while getting things from the locker.
We're not all muppets!
I always keep my passport in a trouser pocket, along with my wallet and phone; everything else, computer, iPad, etc etc etc, is not that important to me and is also backed up somewhere else so is not to be worried about.
In fact, I'd probably get into a spot of bother in such circumstances because I would not suffer the stupidity of these people and that could involve physical action, especially if such people were blocking the aisle while getting things from the locker.
We're not all muppets!
Passengers seem to have had a lot of time to evacuate and leave the location of the plane without any fire equipment to even have been called.
No wonder they took their hand baggage, time didn't seem to be of the essence.
Pretty good looking #4 engine.
I wonder what the real story was rather than the passenger interpretation?
No wonder they took their hand baggage, time didn't seem to be of the essence.
Pretty good looking #4 engine.
I wonder what the real story was rather than the passenger interpretation?
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For those not familiar with the airport layout, it's about 200 metres from the Fire Station to that location.
Other photos on twitter do show the Fire service on scene, might just have been angle that the initial photo was taken from.
Other photos on twitter do show the Fire service on scene, might just have been angle that the initial photo was taken from.
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I agree and was going to post something similar.
Passport and wallet are with me anyway (and in future based on someone's suggestion on here, keys), the rest can leave.
And like you, I would get in trouble if someone was hesitating getting onto a slide "in a real emergency" because of a bag !
Re Passports, not sure what other countries are like but Aussie Passorts can be obtained very quickly in emergencies. I got a brand new one in 12 hours, albeit I had ID and old passport but the way it is set up (I asked), they can and will issue with less in emergencies.
I agree and was going to post something similar.
Passport and wallet are with me anyway (and in future based on someone's suggestion on here, keys), the rest can leave.
And like you, I would get in trouble if someone was hesitating getting onto a slide "in a real emergency" because of a bag !
Re Passports, not sure what other countries are like but Aussie Passorts can be obtained very quickly in emergencies. I got a brand new one in 12 hours, albeit I had ID and old passport but the way it is set up (I asked), they can and will issue with less in emergencies.
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lomapeso - You correctly add in words like, seem to have had lot of time. Time did' seem to be of the essence there are plenty of people who have died in the past because "everything seemed to be all right."
If any old bat or old fool is in the way of me exiting a potentially burning plane because ne/she's got pick up her duty free she'll get an almighty boot up the arse from me.
If any old bat or old fool is in the way of me exiting a potentially burning plane because ne/she's got pick up her duty free she'll get an almighty boot up the arse from me.
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I was not on the flight, so perhaps it is not fair for me to speak. But it seems to me that if the crew thought it pressing enough to deploy the slide, I should consider it pressing enough not to hold things up getting bags. And you are saying this is not uncommon?
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"But it seems to me that if the crew thought it pressing enough to deploy the slide,"
Exactly.
How long does it take for an explosion ?
Exactly.
How long does it take for an explosion ?