Advice/Help - Long Haul with 2 young Kids
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Advice/Help - Long Haul with 2 young Kids
In a few weeks I am flying BA Leeds to Cape Town (via LHR) with 2 young kids. 3 year old boy and 1 year old girl. Couldn’t go Premium Economy and my little girl will be a lap passenger due finances. Years ago I have been that passenger who has been unfortunately seated near young children who have been ‘challenging’; although disruptive it’s never really bothered me that much because the parent/s have been trying their best to entertain their kids and after all kids are kids. But I want to make the journey as peaceful as possible for those seated around us. Does anyone have any advice on how to keep 2 young kids from causing mayhem on BA058 (aside from drugging them)?
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aside from drugging them
(1) make sure you are all seated together (check the aircraft seatplan and try to get a 3-bank seat set if there is one)
(2) make sure you have something to help the kids swallow frequently (juice or milk) during climb and descend clears the Euston Station Tubes and relieves pain in the ears)
after that you're on your own...
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Lots of good advice in this thread and in this one.
Will you be alone with the two kids? If so, you will certainly have your hands full. Make sure the cabin crew are aware of your predicament, and speak to them early on about planning meals, etc - it's best if you feed the kids first, and then tackle your own meal later.
Since you rather foolishly didn't check with us before buying your ticket, there is little point in my main piece of advice, which is to start long-haul flights in the late afternoon or early evening. This gives the best chance of getting the kids to sleep according to their normal schedule, which gives you and your fellow passengers the best chance of some peace and quiet.
Once you're all settled on the long flight, it will probably be mostly OK. The worst part of the trip is likely to be the change at Heathrow.
Good luck!
Will you be alone with the two kids? If so, you will certainly have your hands full. Make sure the cabin crew are aware of your predicament, and speak to them early on about planning meals, etc - it's best if you feed the kids first, and then tackle your own meal later.
Since you rather foolishly didn't check with us before buying your ticket, there is little point in my main piece of advice, which is to start long-haul flights in the late afternoon or early evening. This gives the best chance of getting the kids to sleep according to their normal schedule, which gives you and your fellow passengers the best chance of some peace and quiet.
Once you're all settled on the long flight, it will probably be mostly OK. The worst part of the trip is likely to be the change at Heathrow.
Good luck!
Since you rather foolishly didn't check with us before buying your ticket, there is little point in my main piece of advice, which is to start long-haul flights in the late afternoon or early evening.
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Buy them both a new toy that they get given early in the flight. The novelty of something new and not seen before will give you some relief. Obviously not something with lots of bits, lest they get dropped on the floor.
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On the plus side there isn't a huge time difference between UK and most of SA, so they are less likely to suffer from "body clock" confusion either; with a bit of luck you'll have a couple of sleepy-heads for company before too long. Good luck!
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Plan for Day 1 and Day 2. When you first get there YOU will be tired and - whilst the adrenalin will keep you going for about three hours - plan that there will be someone to take the children whilst you crash out. 
They will not stop on the first day (or the second day) [if I know anything about children] {and I don't
} but you will be very tired from the flight and need more than usual catch up time.
I'm sure you know that the LHR~CPT run is about 11.50 / 11.75 hours but that is wheels-to-wheels, not on-to-off, leave alone the formalities. So be ready for setting time expectations.
They will not stop on the first day (or the second day) [if I know anything about children] {and I don't
} but you will be very tired from the flight and need more than usual catch up time.I'm sure you know that the LHR~CPT run is about 11.50 / 11.75 hours but that is wheels-to-wheels, not on-to-off, leave alone the formalities. So be ready for setting time expectations.
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Cross your fingers and hope the people around you like kids. They can be a great help entertaining one if the other one is being a handful. If they do not understand your predicament and get nasty, well then you don't deserve to be caring of their needs in the first place. 
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A not unreasonable thread to add this report 'Dear Daddy' in Seat 16C: Shanell Mouland's letter goes viral - Americas - World - The Independent
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Cross your fingers and hope the people around you like kids
Of course, on the way home when we wanted to sleep on the overnight flight, he most definitely did not and it was a lot harder.
I was sat next to a mother and son last time into SFO, they weren't regular fliers so I was pointing out things through the window to them. The good one is to note the position of the wings on the ground and then where they are once in the air - the difference between the wings hanging from the fuselage and vice versa. We were on the left, so as we approached the Bay Area I told them what to look for out of the window (I've always wondered whether the local tourist board had influence over the flight path) as the aircraft banked left and the Golden Gate Bridge and Alcatraz were visible, and described the flight down the peninsular and the turn back up to the airport. I warned them about being almost in the water but didn't mention the Asiana incident until the wheels were on the ground. On my first flight into SFO I had an exit row seat and the flight attendant facing me gave me pretty much the same guided tour, so it was nice to be able to pass it on.
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Thank you to those that replied. Gibbon, to be honest I went with BA because the timings were most suitable. I have no particular affinity or otherwise with BA, have flown to CPT numerous times (no children) with Air Namibia, KLM, Virgin and Emirates. BA simply offered a good connection (less than 2 hours) at Terminal 5 and an overnight flight to destination, plus it’s easier to check in baggage (1 each, 2 car seats and buggy) at LBA (v close to home) and forget about them. Rather than the long drive to LHR followed by long flight.
On my own outbound, wife to help inbound thankfully. Thanks again for advice, I’m not expecting sleep but it’d be nice if those around me can get some.
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On my own outbound, wife to help inbound thankfully. Thanks again for advice, I’m not expecting sleep but it’d be nice if those around me can get some.
Cheers
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Aha, you hadn't mentioned you were a man...in that case you're bound to be inundated with offers of help, and generally encounter a more sympathetic attitude. That's certainly been my husband's experience.
As regards other passengers, the most important thing to get them on-side and to minimise tutting is to look like you're trying your best - what tends to enrage people is when kids are playing up and the parents don't seem to care.
As regards other passengers, the most important thing to get them on-side and to minimise tutting is to look like you're trying your best - what tends to enrage people is when kids are playing up and the parents don't seem to care.
Reserve seats in advance.
Go for the far back of the aircraft as these are the least popular (and also some auto-allocation seat routines just fill the aircraft from the front backwards).
Choose a triple seat and reserve the Window and the Aisle. Leave the middle seat unreserved. Doing it this way means that, unless the aircraft is 100% full, that seat is most unlikely to be selected by someone else.
Go for the far back of the aircraft as these are the least popular (and also some auto-allocation seat routines just fill the aircraft from the front backwards).
Choose a triple seat and reserve the Window and the Aisle. Leave the middle seat unreserved. Doing it this way means that, unless the aircraft is 100% full, that seat is most unlikely to be selected by someone else.
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It's not the kids that are the problem fabs it is the irresponsible parents.
The fact that you have taken proper responsibility for your children makes all the difference to those around you.
Well done.
The fact that you have taken proper responsibility for your children makes all the difference to those around you.
Well done.