Europes oldest active airframe(s)
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Europes oldest active airframe(s)
Just wondering out of interest what is the oldest airframe in europe that is still in passenger use?
Ive searched the net and can only find info on the US military??
Anybody care to participate in this are of interest? Airline/type/reg would be most useful.
I used to enjoy watching and occasionaly traveling on the Tristar with LTU to the Balearics a few years ago. Think they were all scrapped after the airlines demise though.
Ive searched the net and can only find info on the US military??
Anybody care to participate in this are of interest? Airline/type/reg would be most useful.
I used to enjoy watching and occasionaly traveling on the Tristar with LTU to the Balearics a few years ago. Think they were all scrapped after the airlines demise though.
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http://www.airfleets.net/
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Well these fit your definition of an old airframe in Europe still in passenger use. I couldn't say if they are the oldest but they must be up there.
de Havilland Dragon Rapide
These were built in 1945 but it's a 1934 design.
de Havilland Dragon Rapide
These were built in 1945 but it's a 1934 design.
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yes i have been searching 747 classics, Tristars, DC10s, 737 classics and even the 727 & BAC1-11 
It would appear that non exist in regular passenger schedules anymore though.
It would appear that non exist in regular passenger schedules anymore though.
Jet2's fleet consists largely of 737 classics, although they're 300s and by classic you might be referring to 200s... if so there are a couple of 200s in use in Slovakia or Slovenia I think, can't remember which.
My own bet is that some of the MD80s knocking around have to be up there somewhere in terms of oldest regular pax carrying aircraft in the EU.
I half wondered if someone in the former eastern European countries was still using TU154 or IL62s but I can't find any within the EU.
My own bet is that some of the MD80s knocking around have to be up there somewhere in terms of oldest regular pax carrying aircraft in the EU.
I half wondered if someone in the former eastern European countries was still using TU154 or IL62s but I can't find any within the EU.
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Ah the Lockheed Superstar! Now that would be some flight of nostalgia.
Had the pleasure of flying on a Jet2 757 earlier this year. Was okay although not sure about the minimalist Recaro seating. The tray tables are a joke!
Do KLM still have the DC10s/MD11s? And if so, do they still have Flight Engineers??
It wasnt that long ago i remember seeing Tristars landing at Heathrow. Caribbean airline of some sorts - cant remember the name.
Also some Balkan thing carving its own hole in the ozone layer along with a carbon footprint the size of King Kong.
Interesting stuff all the same.
There must be some 747 classics knocking about no? Maybe adhoc charters? I remember seeing a 747SP at Dublin maybe last year? Now they are odd looking.
Had the pleasure of flying on a Jet2 757 earlier this year. Was okay although not sure about the minimalist Recaro seating. The tray tables are a joke!
Do KLM still have the DC10s/MD11s? And if so, do they still have Flight Engineers??
It wasnt that long ago i remember seeing Tristars landing at Heathrow. Caribbean airline of some sorts - cant remember the name.
Also some Balkan thing carving its own hole in the ozone layer along with a carbon footprint the size of King Kong.
Interesting stuff all the same.
There must be some 747 classics knocking about no? Maybe adhoc charters? I remember seeing a 747SP at Dublin maybe last year? Now they are odd looking.
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there were 3 or 4 TU154s at Minsk last year. If they had been ships, they would have been described as 'laid up in ordinary' - covers on engines, parked off to one side and probably not used for some time, looking rather dirty.
They probably don't count as 'active airframes' though.
They probably don't count as 'active airframes' though.
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I flew with Malev just a couple of years ago from Heathrow, and the 737 that rocked up had the old narrow low by-pass nacelles that looked liked tubes. They must have stopped making them like that in the early to mid 80's.
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That was probably the Aviogenex YU-ANP, she has been used by a number of operators the last couple of years. JAT still uses her often. Funny thing is, is that she is actually younger than some of JAT's 733's!
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Just arrived in Palma on a 757 from LBA which I beleive started life in late 1980,s according to crew and showed it in parts.
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On Boeing aircraft there is a small plaque in the boarding door-frame. Look up as you enter. It has the manufacture date. Not many crews even know it is there.
I'm a regular on Aurigny's Trislander fleet, the oldest of which dates from 1975 I believe.
So the Trislander looks to be the front-runner so far, for an aircraft operating scheduled passenger services.
Unless anyone knows otherwise ... ?