VS25 diversion to Gander, passengers overnight in terminal
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Originally Posted by A Squared
Nope, not a given. I've been operating 4 engine airplanes since 2000. At a previous employer I was flying DC-6's and had the opportunity to expereince the engine failure thingy on more then a few occasions. It depends on load, fuel, terrain, and weather. On some occaions I did indeed divert. On many other occasions I continued on to destination, overflying airports which were very much "suitable" diversion options. Airports, I would have been required by regulation to divert to, (and would have done happily) had I been in a two engine airplane on one engine.
All perfectly legal. It is very clearly and explicitly allowed by US Part 121 regulations.
All perfectly legal. It is very clearly and explicitly allowed by US Part 121 regulations.
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PAX should be more than happy that they still have the ability to moan about the lack of hotels, and I bet the terminal was much warmer and drier than bobbing (at best) in the ocean! ... any landing to can talk about was a good one! ... 'Damn those pilots for getting us down safely!'
visualwith737, with your attitude towards paying passengers I sure as hell hope your not flying for one of my preffered airlines. I will leave it at that.
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Well done, VS! Got it on the ground. All the rest is just talk.
Re 4 - if the rules say it is OK to continue on 3 then, subject to the commander's decision it's OK to continue. What's so difficult about that?
Re 4 - if the rules say it is OK to continue on 3 then, subject to the commander's decision it's OK to continue. What's so difficult about that?
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Was stuck in Gander with a Court Line L1011, G-BAAB the Pink One, on January 25th 1974 for 4 days with 400 Jamaicans who had been home for Christmas. Very little HOTAC as I recall but fun days!!
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Exactly. Break out de J'maican rum mun & party on ! Rog 747-Post 243-yeah, with one of them but trying to preserve my anonymity ! But your post 31 requires clarification. Yes, by implication, you would want to land as soon as poss. Few of us would land at an "unsuitable " aerodrome though, just because it was "closer". Here goes the discussion I was trying to avoid. Look, I lost an engine overhead Larnaca. The nearest "suitable" airfield was right under my ass. I took up the hold, completed drills & landed at the nearest suitable airfield, er, Larnaca. In the hold, completing drills, thinking about a re-start, Company contacted but requested I go to Damascus where my company engineers were waiting, a replacement engine was in the hangar &, by the way, a tail wind existed meaning that I was likely to be on the ground, Damascus, sooner than drifting down in the hold & landing at Larnaca. I told them to stuff off. Too many "iff's" coming along & as the Commander, I made the Command decision (the only one, frankly, ) & in accordance with all regs. Commercial decisions do not enter into, what is, after all, as clarified earlier, a "MAYDAY" situation ! Can you immagine if the tailwind to Damascus diasappeared ? Oh, and on the way to Damascus, the other engine quit ??????,
Guys look at the other thread re Delta into Dublin. GREAT JOB. What is the problem ? Engine quits, if on two, a mayday, but, ease off , let us just request emergency services on SBY alert, declare the problem but as we are descending into the destination airfiel, er, easy (?). I think so.
Let me close with this. B737, LGW to CDG. Engine quits almost overhead CDG. Capt returns to LGW !!!!!! CP at the time (didn't last much longer) applauded the decision & sent a memo to all pilots asking them to review their thinking of "suitable". LGW was considered to be "more" suitable than a full blown , international airfield under that twerps ass ! Oh, they were ex RAF squadron buddies !
Guys look at the other thread re Delta into Dublin. GREAT JOB. What is the problem ? Engine quits, if on two, a mayday, but, ease off , let us just request emergency services on SBY alert, declare the problem but as we are descending into the destination airfiel, er, easy (?). I think so.
Let me close with this. B737, LGW to CDG. Engine quits almost overhead CDG. Capt returns to LGW !!!!!! CP at the time (didn't last much longer) applauded the decision & sent a memo to all pilots asking them to review their thinking of "suitable". LGW was considered to be "more" suitable than a full blown , international airfield under that twerps ass ! Oh, they were ex RAF squadron buddies !
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So...pilots deal with emergency, get the aircraft safely on the ground. Job done. No HOTAC? This is the last thing we as pilots should be thinking about.
A nothing story...move on.
A nothing story...move on.
