Wikiposts
Search
Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) If you are regularly a passenger on any airline then why not post your questions here?

Do you lock your luggage?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 20:46
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North West UK
Posts: 539
Received 9 Likes on 4 Posts
Do you lock your luggage?

For several years now, I have sent luggage through into the hold without locking it. Whether it be direct non-stop from Manchester or via various European airports, never had a problem with anything stolen (I am tempting fate here I know) and no damage to zips. Serious valuables go in hand luggage.

What risks do I face if I continue to do this. Would I be asked by my insurance company if the suitcase was locked before they paid out a claim for stolen goods? Most locks are cheap rubbish anyway which the average child could probably defeat given a few minutes.

What do you do?
Espada III is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:07
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1601
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do you lock your luggage?

Depending on the suitcase type, locked or not, the are accessible. I have witnessed customs open cases with a biro to check for contraband, before doing them back up again, passenger unaware. So locked or not, if someone wants in, they will get in. The only way to be certain nowadays is the good ol shrink wrap
TOWTEAMBASE is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:08
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: world
Posts: 3,424
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I lock my suitcase yet I'm under no illusion whatsoever that it will prevent theft. So why do I do it? I have no idea!
Hotel Tango is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:36
  #4 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,150
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
The lock is against the casual thief and, if the case is dropped by the taxi driver, slightly less likely to crash open and spill the contents on the pavement.

In the rain.

With a wind blowing so you have to chase things down the street.

Last edited by PAXboy; 3rd Feb 2013 at 21:37.
PAXboy is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 21:42
  #5 (permalink)  
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Derbyshire, England.
Posts: 4,094
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A practiced thief can open most suitcases, including the 'hard' ones, like Samsonite, in the space of a few minutes, a motor cycle wheel spoke will knock the hinge out of a Samsonite or a Delsey in a few seconds, hands in, feel for valuables, like cameras, wallets etc. hands out, hinge back in. Zips, as mentioned, with a biro, (see on Youtube). The best, but not perfect defence, without using the shrink-wrap method, is a strong strap that does NOT have the easy click in fastener but has the old fashioned buckle or similar fastener, unless they cut the strap, leaving evidence, straps are just too much trouble as there are a lot of easier pickings.
parabellum is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2013, 22:21
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1601
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do you lock your luggage?

So if you know any baggage handlers that go to work on a motorbike, and they have the odd spoke missing......you've found your culprit ;-)
TOWTEAMBASE is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 01:22
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
I use cable ties, but I really don't know why I bother, after seeing the You-tube vid re opening zips with a pen.
Lantern10 is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 01:55
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: England
Posts: 1,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I put a padlock on my cases, absolutely no idea why, though.

Work at an airport and know just how easy it is to open a case, or how easily they can 'pop open' in the baggage systems or when being handled!
750XL is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 08:46
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 82
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We use a set of Eagle Creek baggage and since the baggage itself is worth more than the contents, we don't bother!
Sunnyjohn is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 08:49
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: My little house
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cable tie through the zip, then wrapped around a convenient handle, etc.

I have heard that there is a gang using the "biro trick" to smuggle in packages of drugs to uk airports, basically they plant a package in your bag in Jamaica, then when you get to the other end, you pick up your bag then when clear of the airport, someone robs your bag. Obviously, if you get stopped by customs before the other side, you are the one that gets done for it, zero risk to the actual gang as "yes, this is my bag, yes, I packed it myself"

Jon
Jonhunter is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 18:15
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: UK
Age: 64
Posts: 3,586
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't, whether travelling as crew or passenger. I figure that if they want to get in they will, and this way I might get the suitcase back intact, including some of the contents. I never have anything more valuable than clothing in my checked baggage.

When I first joined an airline, there was one bit of advice that stuck: I was told never to travel with a soft or zipper suitcase, but to always use a hard shell - this was because you can't sit on a soft suitcase so easily while waiting (too true) and that zippers break and soft cases don't protect to the same extent. You're free to disagree as this is not definitive: My Mother, for example, swears blind that I am wrong and that soft zippers are preferable because they expand - but then she doesn't travel that much and hasn't seen what happens to bags in the undercroft!
TightSlot is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 18:25
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 82
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is not a plug but we've had our Eagle Creek zipped baggage for about ten years and never had a problem. It does, however, also have reinforcing straps but it is 'soft' baggage.
Sunnyjohn is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 18:40
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Confoederatio Helvetica
Age: 69
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TS - My checked luggage for the last 30 years has been hard shelled Samsonite.

This conclusion results from the day I had working as a ramp rat (My company's ones had honoured another unions picket line). Bulk loaded bags in B737s and DC8s - container loaded for DC10s. We tried to be nice to soft bags, but that wasn't always possible.

Also (slight thread drift) - when unloading onto carousels were were taught to put the bags a certain way up, so the luggage handles would be facing the passengers when it came out. This appears to be a lost art, as I rarely see this, from the land side.
ExXB is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 19:19
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: England
Age: 78
Posts: 158
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sunny John,

I have just had my Eagle Creek briefcase replaced and I am about to send my Eagle Creek replacement suitcase to be replaced again. They cost a king's ransom to purchase and now a queen's ransom in return postage.

This is also not a plug for Eagle Creek.
Shytehawk is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 21:12
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wor Yerm
Age: 68
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hard shell Samsonite cases with a combination locks can be opened in a few minutes flat without damage and then relocked. Without other security measures, the owner would be totally unaware that they have been opened.

PM
Piltdown Man is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 21:37
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Confoederatio Helvetica
Age: 69
Posts: 2,847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In addition to the combination lock there are two other locks secured by a key. That ads at least 15 seconds or so to the time necessary to get into them. But it does them no good.

The only thing of value that I put in checked bags are things I can't carry on. Swiss Army knives, fine wine, whiskey and other similar liquids. This happens on few flights and I have never had anything to missing, yet.
ExXB is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2013, 22:14
  #17 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,150
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
Hard shell Samsonite cases with a combination locks can be opened in a few minutes flat without damage and then relocked.
Yup - it's to stop the amateurs and the taxi drivers. Nothing more.
PAXboy is offline  
Old 5th Feb 2013, 08:05
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
fill your luggage with dirty underwear - make them pay a price....................

Last edited by Heathrow Harry; 5th Feb 2013 at 08:05.
Heathrow Harry is offline  
Old 5th Feb 2013, 08:47
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Age: 56
Posts: 1,445
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
I've never found it especially difficult to lock & unlock my Carlton which has been travelling with me faithfully since 1994. It's wheels have long gone and it looks worse for wear but it's not let me down - & if it has been opened no one has ever found owt worth taking inside.
Load Toad is offline  
Old 5th Feb 2013, 09:43
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 82
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry to read that Shytehawk. I can only speak as I find! Eagle Creek do bang on about a lifetime guarantee and my view is that they should be prepared to pay postage both ways. I suspect they work it on the basis that most people won't bother to send the whole thing back because of the postage, which is extortionate from the US to the rest of the world. Of course, I may be doing them a complete injustice. . .
Sunnyjohn is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.