Would you like Smoking or Non-Smoking ?
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I would imagine there must be some small carriers in places like China they allow smoking. I mention China only because I know smoking there is much more widespread than in many other countries. Was there ever any real safety issue to smoking on board, afterall most of the components are made of fire resistant materials. Does any one know of any instances where a fire in the cabin / loos was caused by a disgarded fag end ?
Oh yes. But have they downed it and downed it because they have no cigarettes ? I just feel it was too much of a coincidence that the rate went up when smoking was banned.
(And in my experience (which is considerable) a smoker drinks more when smoking rather than when not).
There was a South African 747 that crashed following an inflight fire killing about 150 I think. One suspected cause was a fire started by a cigarette butt. Need to look it up.
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When the Canadians banned it years ago it was to ensure a smoke-free environment to all of the crew. Canadian legislation required this for all workers.
With regards to the weight of nicotine etc, I've heard the opposite - that the minute smoke trails around rivets and bulkheads were the best way to detect a very slow leak. However that is not a good reason to allow it.
In the last few years of 'smoking on aircraft' I was often assigned a seat in a smoking row - (flying standby) and no-smoking seats no longer available. Often, during the flight some (expletive deleted) smoker who had a non-smoking seat, would come back and sit and smoke next to me. Rarely would they ask if was OK. Bar-Stewards!
With regards to the weight of nicotine etc, I've heard the opposite - that the minute smoke trails around rivets and bulkheads were the best way to detect a very slow leak. However that is not a good reason to allow it.
In the last few years of 'smoking on aircraft' I was often assigned a seat in a smoking row - (flying standby) and no-smoking seats no longer available. Often, during the flight some (expletive deleted) smoker who had a non-smoking seat, would come back and sit and smoke next to me. Rarely would they ask if was OK. Bar-Stewards!
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In 1983 an Air Canada DC9 was a total loss after a discarded cigarette caused an on board fire, 23 people died when the aircraft was not evacuated quickly on landing - the fire was thought to have been dealt with.
To my knowledge it was the aftermath of this accident that was the start of stricter no smoking rules.
Air Canada Flight 797 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To my knowledge it was the aftermath of this accident that was the start of stricter no smoking rules.
Air Canada Flight 797 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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am an ex smoker now, but even when I was I used to hate sitting in the smoking bit on the plane, it was like I didn't need to light up as I just breathed in !, came off the plane feeling like I'd been on 40 a day !!
being stuck 36 thousand feet up in the air with no hunky fire men dont sound like a good idea
jess ))))
being stuck 36 thousand feet up in the air with no hunky fire men dont sound like a good idea
jess ))))
That was a 747 Combi with main deck cargo and reduced passenger accommodation, and the fire broke out in this main deck cargo hold. There was R/T describing this before the aicraft was lost. It was identified that the fireproofing for the main deck cargo was not of the same resistance as that installed in the underfloor holds. SAA took the Combis out of service immediately afterwards.