Easyjet Pilot Refuses 50 Scotish Fans Flying from Amsterdam to Prague
Originally Posted by glad rag
Actually, the Tartan Army take their conduct pretty seriously, in that, in the whole, they see themselves as Ambassadors for Scotland.
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As for booing the national anthem what do you expect with "May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush,"
far better for Emgland to adopt Barwick Green or it's ilk.
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As for booing the national anthem what do you expect with "May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush,"
far better for Emgland to adopt Barwick Green or it's ilk.
Next thing you'll be telling us that Braveheart was based on truth!
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Well, I've just spoken to one of the people who wasn't let onto this flight. He wasn't drunk and nor were the families with small children who were denied boarding because they were all tarred by the same brush.
Even then, he says that the people who were mildly noisy, were not rowdy and he reckons the definition of "drunk" is not one that any of us here would probably recognise.
Whilst it is always the captain's decision, me thinks that this one might end up biting him in the bum.
More to come on this I think.
Even then, he says that the people who were mildly noisy, were not rowdy and he reckons the definition of "drunk" is not one that any of us here would probably recognise.
Whilst it is always the captain's decision, me thinks that this one might end up biting him in the bum.
More to come on this I think.
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It will all depend on how the dispatcher relayed the message to the Captain. If the group, or some of the group, had been winding the dispatcher up - then he or she may have "over-reported" the situation to the Captain. In which case, the dispatcher who will be under the spotlight.
It will all depend on how the dispatcher relayed the message to the Captain. If the group, or some of the group, had been winding the dispatcher up - then he or she may have "over-reported" the situation to the Captain. In which case, the dispatcher who will be under the spotlight.
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To all the "holier than thou" types who profess not to drink - how do you prove that you are a 'Teetotaller?' The very word is laughable.
Simple answer - do not try to board a flight to a fitba' match wearing the kilt, or anything tartan.
Simple answer - do not try to board a flight to a fitba' match wearing the kilt, or anything tartan.
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To all the "holier than thou" types who profess not to drink - how do you prove that you are a 'Teetotaller?' The very word is laughable.
I now drink, albeit very little compared to most people, I appreciate good wine and a good Islay Single Malt, a bottle of the latter will last me for a good few months so I don't mind paying £50 or so for such a bottle.
How do you prove you're a teetotaller? To be honest the thought has never crossed my mind, it's not something I would ever need to justify or prove to anyone.
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Football fans are far too often a pain in the bum to travel with. I can do without the constant cheering, shouting, yelling, jeering and so can the rest of the people who are forced to put up with them. To them, behaving means not too much swearing and maybe using the toilet when they need to. So if I'm presented with a large group of people who will probably misbehave, I'll deny them boarding because their manner may be offensive to others. I don't have the time to vet them individually, so I'll paint them all with the same brush.
And if you want to see how to travel in public, watch how the Newcastle Utd. team travels. Smart, polite, quiet, well mannered etc. Even when flying home after being thrashed. It's a shame football fans can't follow their lead.
The bottom line is, if you want to travel as a large group make sure you travel quietly, politely and above all, make sure you don't piss off the wrong people - like me! Or there again, you could always hire your own personal transport.
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And if you want to see how to travel in public, watch how the Newcastle Utd. team travels. Smart, polite, quiet, well mannered etc. Even when flying home after being thrashed. It's a shame football fans can't follow their lead.
The bottom line is, if you want to travel as a large group make sure you travel quietly, politely and above all, make sure you don't piss off the wrong people - like me! Or there again, you could always hire your own personal transport.
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We were on a easyJet flight from Cyprus and two would be pax were denied boarding because another passenger complained of their behaviour in departures and the ground staff kept them separate but did not stop them proceding to the aircraft.
The Cypriot staff and security would be happiest if they had leftthe country. Essentially it falls to the flight crew to pass the problem back to the ground staff.
The Cypriot staff and security would be happiest if they had leftthe country. Essentially it falls to the flight crew to pass the problem back to the ground staff.
Say again et al,
The Scots are hardly likely to say "oh yes, I was bladdered, good decision Capt!"
Everyone is speculating or setting out their stall and we can all voice opinions based on nothing more than hearsay.
Remember this happened in AMS, an airport where the handling agents and Operations are second to none; it inspires confidence on the ground and in the air.
For a Captain to make such a decision, he will of had reason and very big balls.
The Scots are hardly likely to say "oh yes, I was bladdered, good decision Capt!"
Everyone is speculating or setting out their stall and we can all voice opinions based on nothing more than hearsay.
Remember this happened in AMS, an airport where the handling agents and Operations are second to none; it inspires confidence on the ground and in the air.
For a Captain to make such a decision, he will of had reason and very big balls.
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At least this pilot carried the rest of the passengers who had paid to travel on the flight. A Flybe captain once turfed all the passengers off his Dash 8 400 and cancelled the flight from Glasgow to Belfast because of the behaviour of some Tesco representatives on their way home to Northern Ireland after a business trip to Scotland.
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The great benifit of being at the very top of the list when flying the heavy metal was that I could simply avoid flying: {a} Gambling charters{b} Pro sports teams{c} Fan clubs of pro sports teams{ d}Political charters during elections. . With a few exceptions they all behaved like morons! The Captain has my vote.
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Of course, another possibility is that somebody was having a bad day and they paid for someone else's sins. I wasn't there and I don't know.
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Surely if you are part of a team, you will not be leaving half (or even one) of your team mates behind, will you?
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Well I'm not holier than thou, although I'm certainly smarter than you. 
Why would you ever need to? What I choose to drink or not drink is none else's business.
I agree that the word teetotal itself sounds a bit silly. It also has religious connotations which I do not like, much less ascribe to.
how do you prove that you are a 'Teetotaller?'
The very word is laughable.
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Many, many years ago Scotland had been playing in Cyprus, from the outbound flight (circa 100 football supporters on a 148Y aircraft) reports had come back of bad behaviour, no doubt by a minority, of groping the cabin crew etc.
For the return flight, rather than, just say, "offload all 100 of the so and so's" a decision was taken to put a couple of ground crew 'bouncers' on board, one of them being myself.
We entered the terminal in LCA, read them the riot act etc, one or two became a bit 'chopsy' but when faced with the ultimatum of offload or not they quietened down, after the confiscation of one piece of hand luggage (bagpipes) to the front hold all were boarded and we were off.
Admittedly it was a night flight so many were knackered but they all behaved impeccably, we even provided a bit of 'unscheduled' (prank) in-flight entertainment for them which they thoroughly laughed at and upon arrival in MAN, at some unearthly hour of the morning, me standing there with the set of bagpipes I had retrieved from the front hold, well the jovialty (winding up) of the disembarking passengers was humor to be enjoyed by all.
The moral of this story ..... when confronted with a situation, a problem, deal with it, establish how to overcome it, rather than just tell the people that ultimately pay your salary to ..................
For the return flight, rather than, just say, "offload all 100 of the so and so's" a decision was taken to put a couple of ground crew 'bouncers' on board, one of them being myself.
We entered the terminal in LCA, read them the riot act etc, one or two became a bit 'chopsy' but when faced with the ultimatum of offload or not they quietened down, after the confiscation of one piece of hand luggage (bagpipes) to the front hold all were boarded and we were off.
Admittedly it was a night flight so many were knackered but they all behaved impeccably, we even provided a bit of 'unscheduled' (prank) in-flight entertainment for them which they thoroughly laughed at and upon arrival in MAN, at some unearthly hour of the morning, me standing there with the set of bagpipes I had retrieved from the front hold, well the jovialty (winding up) of the disembarking passengers was humor to be enjoyed by all.
The moral of this story ..... when confronted with a situation, a problem, deal with it, establish how to overcome it, rather than just tell the people that ultimately pay your salary to ..................
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leftseatview writes:
Is it not possible to deny boarding only to those members of the group who appear to be drunk, and take the rest....or is that a difficult call to make?
Is it not possible to deny boarding only to those members of the group who appear to be drunk, and take the rest....or is that a difficult call to make?
The captain made the right call in this case.
And, obviously, there was no sober member in the group who chose to calm the group down: "Alright, guys, we're getting on an airplane and you have to behave yourselves. Man-up and act like decent people until we land."
Sir George writes:
On the plane - Captain rules
Nuff sed, move on, nothing more t see here.
On the plane - Captain rules
Nuff sed, move on, nothing more t see here.
If you're a wee bit tipsy and behave well, you might be allowed to fly. If you're part of a great whopping group of boisterous drinkers, don't expect to board.
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The moral of this story ..... when confronted with a situation, a problem, deal with it, establish how to overcome it, rather than just tell the people that ultimately pay your salary to ..................
Offloading everybody who just happens to be wearing a football jersey even though having absolutely no connection with anybody else is wrong.
As for how to prove someone is teetotal.............well passenger can just as easily ask how do they know that Pilot or crew has had no alcohol in 24 hours.
I have travelled quite a bit in support of football but rarely wear a football jersey thats through choice but should I be barred access to a plane on the way to a match because someone else in a non connected group is drunk ?
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video at ten?
I would have thought by now some video footage from a phone or somesuch would have surfaced?
It does seem poor to me though that unilaterally the entire group of 50 was offloaded, all those wearing kilts etc. Seems racist. Think if all black people were denied boarding, or all muslims, or somesuch? That wouldn't be allowed would it?
I understand the logistical difficulties of splitting the group up, maybe like the police spotters in riots, where "snatch" squads go in and fetch individual ringleaders back to the police lines? I bet if a few of the noisy ones are talked to by the police and isolated the rest of the group would get the picture?
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It does seem poor to me though that unilaterally the entire group of 50 was offloaded, all those wearing kilts etc. Seems racist. Think if all black people were denied boarding, or all muslims, or somesuch? That wouldn't be allowed would it?
I understand the logistical difficulties of splitting the group up, maybe like the police spotters in riots, where "snatch" squads go in and fetch individual ringleaders back to the police lines? I bet if a few of the noisy ones are talked to by the police and isolated the rest of the group would get the picture?
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