Volcanic ash / Saharan dust
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Volcanic ash / Saharan dust
Why wouldn't Saharan dust plumes affect aviation in the same way as the widely dispersed volcanic ash we are currently experiencing?
Waking up to find your car covered in the reddish Saharan dust is quite a regular occurrence here at 53° N but to the best of my knowledge it has never inconvenienced aviation operations here.
Waking up to find your car covered in the reddish Saharan dust is quite a regular occurrence here at 53° N but to the best of my knowledge it has never inconvenienced aviation operations here.

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Nearly but not quite. Saharan dust is made of sand, blunted by many years of rubbing up against other dust particles. It has a melting temperature of around 1350 C.
Most turbine engine tgt's are around 850 C.
Volcanic ash has a melting temp of around 600 C. it melts all over the cooling ducts of turbines thereby blocking them causing overheating and eventual failure.
The abrasive properties are an issue but not the main one.
Most turbine engine tgt's are around 850 C.
Volcanic ash has a melting temp of around 600 C. it melts all over the cooling ducts of turbines thereby blocking them causing overheating and eventual failure.
The abrasive properties are an issue but not the main one.
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From: Abu Dhabi
If you look at the turbine section, then yes they "look" cleaner but then again the sand would have had a detrimental effect on the gas path coatings. Airlines flying over deserts would always have indications of sand ingestion, generally showing up inside the cooled blading itself with silica deposits etc.
From a serviceability and repair perspective, sulphidation is a much more serious problem. It won't stop an engine, but it will scrap out a lot of blading at overhaul.
From a serviceability and repair perspective, sulphidation is a much more serious problem. It won't stop an engine, but it will scrap out a lot of blading at overhaul.
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Regarding the abrasive properties of Sand vs. Volcanic Ash, if you had an electron microscope handy with samples of both available, you would be able to tell the difference in abrasiveness simply by looking at them. Fortunately, such images are also available online.
First, Sand:

Second, Volcanic Ash:

However, as previously mentioned, the abrasion on the airframe and compressor blades in the engines is a secondary consideration to the melting of ash in the combustion chamber and turbine blades in the engines.
First, Sand:

Second, Volcanic Ash:

However, as previously mentioned, the abrasion on the airframe and compressor blades in the engines is a secondary consideration to the melting of ash in the combustion chamber and turbine blades in the engines.






