What I'd like from a low cost Long Haul flight, PPRuNe Airlines
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What I'd like from a low cost Long Haul flight, PPRuNe Airlines
Standard Long Haul Economy
Lounge Access to be a chargable extra.
The website to provide clear prices including tax in the first instance, all prices to appear on search engines etc.
- Bottled Water in the seat back on boarding
- All seating to be of similar pitch and recline to the extra legroom seating in KLM
- No meal, just the availability of complimentary sandwiches and snacks throughout the flight.
- Free Soft Drinks, Beer and Wine only. All other drinks chargeable
- Simple In Flight Entertainment
- Ability to choose seat when booking, at a fee, including emergency exit seats.
- Ability to change booking online
- Checkin online.
- Lights to be dimmed shortly after departure, and not disturbed until arrival, cabin crew pass around with sandwiches occasionally.
- Toilets cleaned regularly
- cabin crew pass through regularly to collect trash
- Hold baggage as an optional, chargable extra.
- Standard sized cabin bag allowed upto 15kg.
- Comfortable lie flat seating, nothing else fancy, just the ability to lie COMPLETELY flat.
- Warm meal available immediately after takeoff and shortly before landing but as an added extra cost, booked before the flight.
- Sandwiches and snacks throughout the flight.
- Priority Boarding
- Additional hand baggage allowance.
- Free soft drinks, beer, wine and limited selection of spirits. Champagne etc chargeable.
- Priority Boarding for Silver frequent fliers, and option to use biz class checkin desk.
- Priority Fasttrack Security channel for Gold frequent fliers.
Lounge Access to be a chargable extra.
The website to provide clear prices including tax in the first instance, all prices to appear on search engines etc.
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The website to provide clear prices including tax in the first instance, all prices to appear on search engines etc.
Standard Long Haul Economy
* Bottled Water in the seat back on boarding
* All seating to be of similar pitch and recline to the extra legroom seating in KLM
* No meal, just the availability of complimentary sandwiches and snacks throughout the flight.
* Free Soft Drinks, Beer and Wine only. All other drinks chargeable
* Simple In Flight Entertainment
* Ability to choose seat when booking, at a fee, including emergency exit seats.
* Ability to change booking online
* Checkin online.
* Lights to be dimmed shortly after departure, and not disturbed until arrival, cabin crew pass around with sandwiches occasionally.
* Toilets cleaned regularly
* cabin crew pass through regularly to collect trash
* Hold baggage as an optional, chargable extra.
* Standard sized cabin bag allowed upto 15kg.
* Bottled Water in the seat back on boarding
* All seating to be of similar pitch and recline to the extra legroom seating in KLM
* No meal, just the availability of complimentary sandwiches and snacks throughout the flight.
* Free Soft Drinks, Beer and Wine only. All other drinks chargeable
* Simple In Flight Entertainment
* Ability to choose seat when booking, at a fee, including emergency exit seats.
* Ability to change booking online
* Checkin online.
* Lights to be dimmed shortly after departure, and not disturbed until arrival, cabin crew pass around with sandwiches occasionally.
* Toilets cleaned regularly
* cabin crew pass through regularly to collect trash
* Hold baggage as an optional, chargable extra.
* Standard sized cabin bag allowed upto 15kg.
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- Priority Boarding
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sprthomson; on some of the asian flights, if your in economy and you don't get on first, you'll find no room for you hand baggage, you'll be given a tag and hope to see your bag on the conveyor belt at the final destination. This is a pain if your travelling with hand baggage only and time a the destination is limited and valuable.
Evanelpus; expect? No, Want? YES :-)
Evanelpus; expect? No, Want? YES :-)
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My biggest moan is that "upgrades" go to crew First, and only to pax as an afterthought, if they really have to.
Qantas are worst at this, with BA close behind.
Qantas are worst at this, with BA close behind.
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Priority boarding matter, I think, even today with he reduced hand baggage, so that one can stow the carry on in the rack. Everyone now seems to travel with a bag maxed out to limits.
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My wish list:
That will do it for me.
- A flight that departs on time
- A flight that arrives on time, or a little bit early
- Decent IFE
- Pilots that don't insist on telling me what the weather's going to be like at my destination, half way through a movie, as I'm travelling onwards from the destination and couldn't care less what the weather's like there.
That will do it for me.
Safety
A good size comfy seat, that I can sleep in (a bit of recline and a good head rest will do)
Reliability
Water / soft drinks
Decent IFE
A quiet, restful cabin
Window seat
I'll bring along a few bacon sarnies and a 2L box of wine to keep me happy for the rest of the flight.
A good size comfy seat, that I can sleep in (a bit of recline and a good head rest will do)
Reliability
Water / soft drinks
Decent IFE
A quiet, restful cabin
Window seat
I'll bring along a few bacon sarnies and a 2L box of wine to keep me happy for the rest of the flight.
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One 1.5litre bottle of water handed to each passenger at the gate. Must be presented on boarding with boarding pass.
I packet of K rations ditto including refuse bag.
No food or drink catered on board.
No duty free service on board.
Refuse collection during flight.
Bottles of water available to be sold on board at €5 per small bottle. Not flavoured, not sparkle, just water!
Cabin crew on board as safety crew.
KLM comfort seat leg room as a minimum and prefer sleeper seats.
More toilets and ones that one can stand up in.
A reduction in size of cabin baggage permitted. Two pieces to a total of one dimension.
Removal of the child seat price concession, one pax, any age= one seat, no babes in arms.
I packet of K rations ditto including refuse bag.
No food or drink catered on board.
No duty free service on board.
Refuse collection during flight.
Bottles of water available to be sold on board at €5 per small bottle. Not flavoured, not sparkle, just water!
Cabin crew on board as safety crew.
KLM comfort seat leg room as a minimum and prefer sleeper seats.
More toilets and ones that one can stand up in.
A reduction in size of cabin baggage permitted. Two pieces to a total of one dimension.
Removal of the child seat price concession, one pax, any age= one seat, no babes in arms.
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What a fascinating thread! It will be really interesting to see where this one goes.
For me, one thing stands out.
The perception of what makes a 'Good' flight is highly variable. Were all of you to be confined in one cabin, it would be impossible to meet the requirements of everybody. A good example is the use of the PA system: Some love, some loathe and some live somewhere in between. I also noted the use of the term 'Decent' IFE - the problem is that a definition of 'decent' is a massive variable. And of course, there will be differing expectations of the fare to be paid for all of the above.
What would interest me would be to note the ideas that are more or less common to all?
For me, one thing stands out.
The perception of what makes a 'Good' flight is highly variable. Were all of you to be confined in one cabin, it would be impossible to meet the requirements of everybody. A good example is the use of the PA system: Some love, some loathe and some live somewhere in between. I also noted the use of the term 'Decent' IFE - the problem is that a definition of 'decent' is a massive variable. And of course, there will be differing expectations of the fare to be paid for all of the above.
What would interest me would be to note the ideas that are more or less common to all?
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Interesting to note that someone above asks for the flight to both depart and arrive on time.
Given the slack in most schedules, if a flight departs on time, it will usually arrive early.
I actually don't care when a flight departs, as long as it lands on schedule. From an airline/air traffic control/airport operations point of view, the passenger fixation on an on-time departure is actually detrimental to efficient operations.
Given the slack in most schedules, if a flight departs on time, it will usually arrive early.
I actually don't care when a flight departs, as long as it lands on schedule. From an airline/air traffic control/airport operations point of view, the passenger fixation on an on-time departure is actually detrimental to efficient operations.
By 'decent' IFE I mean one that works rather than one that doesn't hang, freeze, have to be rebooted etc.
I don't need a million filums and TV channels and radio and on demand music - the choice doesn't have to be that huge but also FFS don't have highly censored versions of stuff on either.
And for gods sake don't let people use mobile phones.
I don't need a million filums and TV channels and radio and on demand music - the choice doesn't have to be that huge but also FFS don't have highly censored versions of stuff on either.
And for gods sake don't let people use mobile phones.
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One 1.5litre bottle of water handed to each passenger at the gate. Must be presented on boarding with boarding pass.
Most passengers seem to struggle with the amount of hand luggage and duty-free they already carry, without insisting that they carry and present one and a half kilos of water upon boarding as well.
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So that the crew can be certain that each passenger, regardless of age has its own bottle of water and cannot then moan and whinge about having left it in the departure lounge ans this make a nuisance of themselves.
Strict adherence to the two pieces of baggage including the requirement that this applies even if you have duty free would make sure there were no proiblems. In other words, if you buy duty free, it forms part of your carry on two piece allowance, so reconcile it as necessary.
Use of mobile telephone once past the departure gate to be met with strict application of Sharia law and of course, off loaded before such application.
Strict adherence to the two pieces of baggage including the requirement that this applies even if you have duty free would make sure there were no proiblems. In other words, if you buy duty free, it forms part of your carry on two piece allowance, so reconcile it as necessary.
Use of mobile telephone once past the departure gate to be met with strict application of Sharia law and of course, off loaded before such application.
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So that the crew can be certain that each passenger, regardless of age has its own bottle of water and cannot then moan and whinge about having left it in the departure lounge ans this make a nuisance of themselves.
For me, IFE restricted to the moving route map - in English (BA note!), and leaving out such places as Stansted (Kent, population a few hundred). In business, the booze and the water and meals, a comfortable seat - flatbed on long haul - adequate duty free. There's rarely any whisky left on BA flights back from Geneva. Never find the in flight magazines of much interest, especially since High Life stopped having the monthly article about a/c fleet and interviews with flight crew. Diabetic meals that are not usually chicken or something masquerading as chicken - it's often hard to tell.