Overpaid bus drivers?
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Overpaid bus drivers?
Why is it that airline pilots have such a high opinion of themselves and their profession? Surely they are just operators of a mode of transport, the same as bus drivers. Although saying that bus drivers dont have the same level of automation the modern jet pilot has and probably have to work harder. Is'nt it time airlines realised that these people are taking the p*** with their high salaries and expensive benifits. Would'nt it be better to pay the engineers more instead. These guys must be the true proffesionals in the industry.
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From the Jargon List, http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/jargon.html (but click with care -- it's huge)
troll v.,n.
1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.
2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."
3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.
The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.
troll v.,n.
1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.
2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."
3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.
The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.
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Inspector Gadget, you have friends in high places (and quite a few stuck on the ground, too):
CNN: Sen. McCain blasts pilots for adding to air delays
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CNN: Sen. McCain blasts pilots for adding to air delays
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I've got a much better idea. Why don't we let the engineers fly the aircraft; and the flight deck guys can maintain them.
On second thoughts, we'd better not - I can see it now:
Capt Engineer: "Whoops, this screw is loose! That's it, aircraft grounded!!"
Engineer Capt: "Missing engine? I'm sure that was on the MEL - fit to fly!"
To each his own... but I agree, a licenced engineer, with type rating (and especially L1011/RB211 type rating) should be paid more. Doesn't mean he will be, though!
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On second thoughts, we'd better not - I can see it now:
Capt Engineer: "Whoops, this screw is loose! That's it, aircraft grounded!!"
Engineer Capt: "Missing engine? I'm sure that was on the MEL - fit to fly!"
To each his own... but I agree, a licenced engineer, with type rating (and especially L1011/RB211 type rating) should be paid more. Doesn't mean he will be, though!
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AJ--
Not sure I should say this as I'm mildly smileyphobic (one's OK, more than one per message and I start to feel ill), but if you ever see graphics in a message and want to know where they come from, just click on the edit icon ( ) on the title of the message and you'll see both the URL where the graphic lives and the magic to type in if you want to put it in one of your pages.
Don't worry about accidently editing someone else's posting. The system won't let you.
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[This message has been edited by Self Loading Freight (edited 18 September 2000).]
Not sure I should say this as I'm mildly smileyphobic (one's OK, more than one per message and I start to feel ill), but if you ever see graphics in a message and want to know where they come from, just click on the edit icon ( ) on the title of the message and you'll see both the URL where the graphic lives and the magic to type in if you want to put it in one of your pages.
Don't worry about accidently editing someone else's posting. The system won't let you.
R
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AJ, regarding Smilies, when you next reply to a post or initiate a new thread, look to the left of the reply/message box. You will see a tag named "Smilies Legend". Open that in a new window, include the appropriate smilie text code in your message, leave the "Disable Smilies in This Post" box unchecked, and you will have your smilie!
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