How To Get Upgraded?
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How To Get Upgraded?
I'm travelling from Edinburgh to Tokyo (via LHR) at the end of August. EDI to LHR (and back) on the BA shuttle then LHR to Tokyo with JAL. The tickets are all economy. My question is - as someone who has not flown longhaul before - how easy is it to get upgraded and what is the best way to go about it?
Any tips would be gratefully received, as though JAL economy cabin looks very nice on their website, I would rather do a 12hr flight with a bit more legroom!
Any tips would be gratefully received, as though JAL economy cabin looks very nice on their website, I would rather do a 12hr flight with a bit more legroom!
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Come On, 5%, I think if you check, NOBODY buys First/Business tickets. Most are flying on their accumulated FF Miles.....
Companies may for execs, or rich folks, but check the prices...
Companies may for execs, or rich folks, but check the prices...
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Dress reasonably smart and keep an eye out for customer service reps looking like they're going to ask if 'anyone is travelling alone'.
Worked for me Gatwick to Houston with BA.
They offered me 250 quid if I'd take the next flight 30 minutes later (they forgot to mention it stopped in Chicago and would arrive at Houston 3.5 hours later). I said 'yes' but only if I was upgraded, they said they didn't have the authority to do that, I politely disagreed...
In the end I was on my original flight AND went business class.
It made the return trip in economy harder to bear, especially since 'The Railway Children' was the film!
Good luck.
Worked for me Gatwick to Houston with BA.
They offered me 250 quid if I'd take the next flight 30 minutes later (they forgot to mention it stopped in Chicago and would arrive at Houston 3.5 hours later). I said 'yes' but only if I was upgraded, they said they didn't have the authority to do that, I politely disagreed...
In the end I was on my original flight AND went business class.
It made the return trip in economy harder to bear, especially since 'The Railway Children' was the film!
Good luck.
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Sorry B Sousa
I work for an airline where the passengers do buy first and business class tickets, I meet them regularly, most are not in frequent flyer programmes and can be recognised by their easy undemanding manner in those cabins.
As a result it really is annoying when economy passengers get on the aircraft and the most frequent question is 'can I be upgraded - you have so many empty seats there?'
These are also the same passengers that when upgraded demand the most attention and cause the most disruption in these cabins because they do not realise how undemanding genuine passengers are and stand out a mile in the eyes of both crew and fellow passengers.
Just observe a disrupted or delayed flight sometime - they scream down the back whilst those up the front make us remember that it's worth it after all!
I work for an airline where the passengers do buy first and business class tickets, I meet them regularly, most are not in frequent flyer programmes and can be recognised by their easy undemanding manner in those cabins.
As a result it really is annoying when economy passengers get on the aircraft and the most frequent question is 'can I be upgraded - you have so many empty seats there?'
These are also the same passengers that when upgraded demand the most attention and cause the most disruption in these cabins because they do not realise how undemanding genuine passengers are and stand out a mile in the eyes of both crew and fellow passengers.
Just observe a disrupted or delayed flight sometime - they scream down the back whilst those up the front make us remember that it's worth it after all!
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Firstly, many thanks to all of you who offered advice - serious or otherwise - on how to potentially get get upgraded on my forthcoming excursion to Japan. I shall give it a try and see if I am lucky.
Five per cent. I am sorry if my enquiry regarding attempting to get upgraded has upset you in some way. I would dearly love to travel business or even first class by paying the appropriate sum in the first instance. However as I work as an advisor for a charity and I am travelling to Tokyo to attend a meeting on their behalf I hardly think purchasing such a ticket would be ethical.
I am also sorry that you have had such a bad experience with passengers who have been upgraded. Obviously I can't comment on your personal experience. However, if I were ever to fly with the airline for which you work and were fortunate enough to be upgraded, I hope my behaviour and conduct would be the antethesis to that you have encountered to date. You might be pleasantly suprised to find that generalisation is not always entirely appropriate or accurate.
Five per cent. I am sorry if my enquiry regarding attempting to get upgraded has upset you in some way. I would dearly love to travel business or even first class by paying the appropriate sum in the first instance. However as I work as an advisor for a charity and I am travelling to Tokyo to attend a meeting on their behalf I hardly think purchasing such a ticket would be ethical.
I am also sorry that you have had such a bad experience with passengers who have been upgraded. Obviously I can't comment on your personal experience. However, if I were ever to fly with the airline for which you work and were fortunate enough to be upgraded, I hope my behaviour and conduct would be the antethesis to that you have encountered to date. You might be pleasantly suprised to find that generalisation is not always entirely appropriate or accurate.
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Recently kicked off our honeymoon with UAL, flying LHR > SFO. I dressed very smartly, asked very politely, and got very politely declined at both check-in and the UAL information desk.
Undeterred, the missus asked at the gate and promptly came back with a pair of C class boarding passes. Then again, she’s much better looking than me.
I suspect its partly attitude & appearance, but mostly luck of the draw.
Undeterred, the missus asked at the gate and promptly came back with a pair of C class boarding passes. Then again, she’s much better looking than me.
I suspect its partly attitude & appearance, but mostly luck of the draw.
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Travelling from Edinburgh to brussles on Honeymoon (weekend break as with 3 young kids its not easy to find babysitters !)
Anyway dont ask for upgrade , but when asked business or pleasure said honeymoon.
Seated in economy and then chief steward asked us to move, upgraded to Business class.
Very unexpected and pleasant.
Much as it was nice to travel business class finances dictate economy, but the BA staff on that fight made sure we were happy and that everything was ok. For that I was extremely grateful
If your lucky enough to be upgraded then be nice, behave and enjoy, you dont know if it will ever happen again (unless you pay for it)
Anyway dont ask for upgrade , but when asked business or pleasure said honeymoon.
Seated in economy and then chief steward asked us to move, upgraded to Business class.
Very unexpected and pleasant.
Much as it was nice to travel business class finances dictate economy, but the BA staff on that fight made sure we were happy and that everything was ok. For that I was extremely grateful
If your lucky enough to be upgraded then be nice, behave and enjoy, you dont know if it will ever happen again (unless you pay for it)
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Some of the old tricks:
Have a stamp made saying 'VIP Passenger' or similar and stamp your ticket - Not too effective when using an e-ticket...
When registering for frequent flyer programs, if asked for a seat preference/number, always select one in business class...
Two schools of thought on check in time, either late when cattle class is about to fill up, or early to take advantage of the only free seat in C class...
Never request a special meal - because it further reduces your chances, because it is unlikely there will be a spare C class special meal...
If your Frequent Flyer card lets you check in at the C class desk, always do this, and ask then for an upgrade... Sometimes asking for the costs to upgrade can help...
If possible to ascertain the status of the bookings in cattle class before hand, do so... If you know it is 100% fill, chances are it has been overbooked and upgrades are an option, if 20% fill, usually very little chance of the upgrade...
Sometimes it maybe preferable to travel in cattle class, such as:
1. on especially on quiet flights, as 4 cattle class seats in a row are better than a business class seat for sleeping...
2. flights in the middle east, i seem to have found often on these flights, mum and dad fly first, and lots of noisey kids in business class with a nanny
Have a stamp made saying 'VIP Passenger' or similar and stamp your ticket - Not too effective when using an e-ticket...
When registering for frequent flyer programs, if asked for a seat preference/number, always select one in business class...
Two schools of thought on check in time, either late when cattle class is about to fill up, or early to take advantage of the only free seat in C class...
Never request a special meal - because it further reduces your chances, because it is unlikely there will be a spare C class special meal...
If your Frequent Flyer card lets you check in at the C class desk, always do this, and ask then for an upgrade... Sometimes asking for the costs to upgrade can help...
If possible to ascertain the status of the bookings in cattle class before hand, do so... If you know it is 100% fill, chances are it has been overbooked and upgrades are an option, if 20% fill, usually very little chance of the upgrade...
Sometimes it maybe preferable to travel in cattle class, such as:
1. on especially on quiet flights, as 4 cattle class seats in a row are better than a business class seat for sleeping...
2. flights in the middle east, i seem to have found often on these flights, mum and dad fly first, and lots of noisey kids in business class with a nanny
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Excellent answer Capt!
Helps if you have a Gold or silver FFP... they will reward you on your loyalty to them... and how correct too!
What does annoy me however (and I recently saw this in MAD on a JKK flight to PMI - JK spainair never again) is when the do not upgrade a FFP gold card holder (not me.....) and let all the stand-by airline staff go up front.
Helps if you have a Gold or silver FFP... they will reward you on your loyalty to them... and how correct too!
What does annoy me however (and I recently saw this in MAD on a JKK flight to PMI - JK spainair never again) is when the do not upgrade a FFP gold card holder (not me.....) and let all the stand-by airline staff go up front.
