Mans body found in U/C bay
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Mans body found in U/C bay
Body Of A Man Found In Landing Gear Of Airliner That Arrived In Tokyo From New York | Strange News | Sky News
With the security in force at airports round the world these days, how does something like this happen?
With the security in force at airports round the world these days, how does something like this happen?
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From: Asia
Just another reminder of the wasted billions we are paying globally for useless airport security
Plastic knives to some destinations and not others
100ml liquid containers with 100ml OK. 125ml containers with 75ml content remaining not OK
Shoes and belts off some places not in others
And all this is costing airlines millions they don't have
A system ( and I use the term loosely) of absolute madness run by muppets
Plastic knives to some destinations and not others
100ml liquid containers with 100ml OK. 125ml containers with 75ml content remaining not OK
Shoes and belts off some places not in others
And all this is costing airlines millions they don't have
A system ( and I use the term loosely) of absolute madness run by muppets
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From: Herefordshire
Maybe...
...he had an airside pass..
Must be a wretched way to die. Imagine the deafening noise and vibration during the take-off roll.. the blast of swirling air at Vr... and the darkness, isolation and fear when the doors close.
I guess the best hope at that time is that hypoxia-induced euphoria kicks in before the cold.
This is still happening too frequently. bm
Must be a wretched way to die. Imagine the deafening noise and vibration during the take-off roll.. the blast of swirling air at Vr... and the darkness, isolation and fear when the doors close.
I guess the best hope at that time is that hypoxia-induced euphoria kicks in before the cold.
This is still happening too frequently. bm
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From: CGK to HKG
So sad
Happen to BA years ago from the Carib' Isles.
One poor soul found in the U/C bay and suspect that a second was dropped out over the sea after the crew got a door warning msg and cycled the gear - then came to a horrible conclusion during the investigation.
What people will do for a better life - but not know the cost.
TW
One poor soul found in the U/C bay and suspect that a second was dropped out over the sea after the crew got a door warning msg and cycled the gear - then came to a horrible conclusion during the investigation.
What people will do for a better life - but not know the cost.
TW
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And Sallyann1234's comment is funny how?
I cannot imagine the desperation that may have driven this person to do this,
BoeingMEL's post gave me the chills.
If you think this is funny, Sallyann1234, shame on you.
TA
I cannot imagine the desperation that may have driven this person to do this,
BoeingMEL's post gave me the chills.
If you think this is funny, Sallyann1234, shame on you.
TA
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It's more than likely that quite a few sectors went by with human remains in the gear bay. Most incidents I know of started in Africa/India/Caribbean then the unfortunates travelled the world for some days as frozen corpses, eventually found when someone did a better-than-average PDI.
It's unlikely to have begun in a 1st world country as most of the population can a) afford to pay and b) know that 10hrs @30,000'+ = death. There aren't people and animals wandering around near the runway as a matter of course, either.
The 777 nose gear has a nasty habit of crushing those who try to hide away in there and pushing the resultant mess where a good look is needed to find it... Not a pleasant discovery.
It's unlikely to have begun in a 1st world country as most of the population can a) afford to pay and b) know that 10hrs @30,000'+ = death. There aren't people and animals wandering around near the runway as a matter of course, either.
The 777 nose gear has a nasty habit of crushing those who try to hide away in there and pushing the resultant mess where a good look is needed to find it... Not a pleasant discovery.
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From: Iceland
It is the same airline as the y-front bomber isn't it? And it took off from NYC?
Thankfully, nothing happened. But it makes you wonder if it was SUPPOSED to.
Security service MUST be onto this possibility for a stowaway situation in an area accessible to people in foreign, less-guarded airports. And must have things in place for checking this location on the aircraft. Well, let us HOPE so anyway.
Thankfully, nothing happened. But it makes you wonder if it was SUPPOSED to.
Security service MUST be onto this possibility for a stowaway situation in an area accessible to people in foreign, less-guarded airports. And must have things in place for checking this location on the aircraft. Well, let us HOPE so anyway.
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Truthfully, it is an impossible job to accomplish - too many people (ramp, maintainance, cleaning, construction, concessions...or the security folks themselves!), too many entry points, too much 'fence-line' (remember the pair that 'rowed their boat ashore' at JFK a few years back? Then wandered around the taxiways and runways until they were spotted?)
The posted incident - and worse - will always happen, I'm afraid. Security, as well as any human endeavour, will never be perfect. Hopefully the airport security forces of the world can 'vary things up' sufficiently in order to keep the bad-actors on their toes and off the property...and out of the aircraft!
The posted incident - and worse - will always happen, I'm afraid. Security, as well as any human endeavour, will never be perfect. Hopefully the airport security forces of the world can 'vary things up' sufficiently in order to keep the bad-actors on their toes and off the property...and out of the aircraft!
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Truthfully, it is an impossible job to accomplish - too many people (ramp, maintainance, cleaning, construction, concessions...or the security folks themselves!), too many entry points, too much 'fence-line' (remember the pair that 'rowed their boat ashore' at JFK a few years back? Then wandered around the taxiways and runways until they were spotted?)
The posted incident - and worse - will always happen, I'm afraid. Security, as well as any human endeavour, will never be perfect. Hopefully the airport security forces of the world can 'vary things up' sufficiently in order to keep the bad-actors on their toes and off the property...and out of the aircraft!
The posted incident - and worse - will always happen, I'm afraid. Security, as well as any human endeavour, will never be perfect. Hopefully the airport security forces of the world can 'vary things up' sufficiently in order to keep the bad-actors on their toes and off the property...and out of the aircraft!
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From: Europe
I shudder to think what possibilities this has for someone willing to commit suicide in the cause of getting a bomb aboard an airliner.
Any ramp pass holder, or hangar pass holder, has always had plenty of opportunities for just that, or even just to leave a device aboard and pass up on the virgins.
This incident has not exposed any new, insidious threat.
Getting the device airside is the tricky bit, or it should be. Unfortunately the security barriers in those out-of-public-gaze areas, where a display of - often ridiculous - security is not a political imperative, are imperfect. So keep shuddering, but at least you now know why you are shuddering.
PS. For a quick shudder, have a ponder about how catering gets airside and who puts it there, how airside shops are re-stocked and who does it, the commercial impact if it were decided to make it impossible to place any harmful liquids or hardware airside, as opposed to merely quite difficult, and what the airport's real priorities are.
