Other airline options to Orlando than BA
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Other airline options to Orlando than BA
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I recently decided not to fly with BA anymore which after so many years has left me quite exposed in not knowing how to get about despite doing it daily for my work for the last 15 years.
I am taking my family of 6 to the dreaded Disney world next month in Orlando for 10 days, are there any other options than Virgin? American only connect via their main hubs and with the little ones I'd like a direct flight.
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I recently decided not to fly with BA anymore which after so many years has left me quite exposed in not knowing how to get about despite doing it daily for my work for the last 15 years.
I am taking my family of 6 to the dreaded Disney world next month in Orlando for 10 days, are there any other options than Virgin? American only connect via their main hubs and with the little ones I'd like a direct flight.
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A quick trip to OAG gives you 5 flights direct today, I think I'm new to OAG.
These inlcude US, Continental and Delta.
Just registered for OAG, did you know there are as many as 50 flights London->LAX tomorrow.
I am in no way connected to OAG.
These inlcude US, Continental and Delta.
Just registered for OAG, did you know there are as many as 50 flights London->LAX tomorrow.
I am in no way connected to OAG.
Last edited by phineas; 24th Aug 2009 at 07:08. Reason: correction
direct to MCO
Ex UK
apart from BA/VS
Direct..
I believe many charter ops
e.g. Monarch , Thomson, Thos Cook etc etc
All the US carriers either code share eg CO/VS on VS or
go via one of their hubs
eg. US, AA, DL, CO etc
and this usually means a plane change somewhere in US en route
I dont think their are any US carriers operating flight direct from UK to MCO
( unless anybody knows different!)
Of course there are European carriers who go direct .KLM for example.. but then you would have to go via AMS .
BA and VS seem to be able to keep their MCO fares at a very high level as they dont have much (direct) competition on the UK-MCO route
apart from BA/VS
Direct..
I believe many charter ops
e.g. Monarch , Thomson, Thos Cook etc etc
All the US carriers either code share eg CO/VS on VS or
go via one of their hubs
eg. US, AA, DL, CO etc
and this usually means a plane change somewhere in US en route
I dont think their are any US carriers operating flight direct from UK to MCO
( unless anybody knows different!)
Of course there are European carriers who go direct .KLM for example.. but then you would have to go via AMS .
BA and VS seem to be able to keep their MCO fares at a very high level as they dont have much (direct) competition on the UK-MCO route
US carriers are fond of maintaining a fiction that they offer "direct" flights on routes like London-Orlando, which in reality are indirect connections with no additional guarantee whatsoever over normal connections that your connection wil be maintained. They will quite happily despatch the continuing aircraft to Orlando while the connecting passengers are stuck in the immgration queue. and will just stick you on their next flight with space. Which may well not be the next departure. This fiction is known by the deliberately obscure footnote "Change of gauge".
Profot, I regret to inform you that Disney has descended to be a pale shadow of what it was 20 years or so ago. If you are disappointed in BA's decline in service nowadays, that's nothing to what has happened at Disney. There's not a decent restaurant in the place any more. Gto NASA at Cape Kennedy instead to be impressed.
Profot, I regret to inform you that Disney has descended to be a pale shadow of what it was 20 years or so ago. If you are disappointed in BA's decline in service nowadays, that's nothing to what has happened at Disney. There's not a decent restaurant in the place any more. Gto NASA at Cape Kennedy instead to be impressed.
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'Change of gauge' is of course a complete con, but under ECAC rules for GDSs, the airlines are supposed to display them like this :
3 US 733 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 /LGW S CLT 1010 1400 E0.333 7
/CLT MCO 1635 1816 E0.321 13:06
which pretty clearly shows that there is a change.
when the ECAC rule is not applied, it shows like this :
4 US 733 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 /LGW S MCO 1010 1816 E 1.EQV 7 13:06
The 1 meaning 1 stop and the EQV meaning equipment change on route. GDSs users are supposed to be aware of this and pass the information on to passengers. Rocket science this is not!
When the segment is sold it appears as :
1 US 733 C 15SEP 2 LGWMCO DK1 1010 1816 15SEP E 1 EQV LS
CHANGE OF AIRCRAFT CLT-321 ADV PASSENGER DEPARTURE TERMINAL-
As far as I know the only European carrier using this stunt is Iberia, as in the examples below. They also use it for flights to Havana, Panama, Bogota
3 IB6313 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 /BCN 1 MAD 4 0845 0955 E0/320
/MAD4S SJO 1205 1505 E0/340 14:20
1 IB6051 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 /BCN 1 MAD 4 2245 2355 E0/320
/MAD4S JNBA1 0130+1 1120+1E0/340 12:35
3 US 733 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 /LGW S CLT 1010 1400 E0.333 7
/CLT MCO 1635 1816 E0.321 13:06
which pretty clearly shows that there is a change.
when the ECAC rule is not applied, it shows like this :
4 US 733 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 /LGW S MCO 1010 1816 E 1.EQV 7 13:06
The 1 meaning 1 stop and the EQV meaning equipment change on route. GDSs users are supposed to be aware of this and pass the information on to passengers. Rocket science this is not!
When the segment is sold it appears as :
1 US 733 C 15SEP 2 LGWMCO DK1 1010 1816 15SEP E 1 EQV LS
CHANGE OF AIRCRAFT CLT-321 ADV PASSENGER DEPARTURE TERMINAL-
As far as I know the only European carrier using this stunt is Iberia, as in the examples below. They also use it for flights to Havana, Panama, Bogota
3 IB6313 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 /BCN 1 MAD 4 0845 0955 E0/320
/MAD4S SJO 1205 1505 E0/340 14:20
1 IB6051 J9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 /BCN 1 MAD 4 2245 2355 E0/320
/MAD4S JNBA1 0130+1 1120+1E0/340 12:35
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Unless you are just idly checking (and why not), I think you might have left it a bit late to try and get good price tickets if you are definitely going next month.
Seems to me, you have to either swallow your loathing of BA and pay £3k'ish Flex economy (guessing 2 adults and 4 children) or:
London DCT US HUB + MCO £2.8k with US Carrier or
London-CDG (or AMS) + 2 stops £2.3k with KLM/AF
You could also try the above to Tampa or Miami (via Toll road not too bad) could be cheaper.
Seems to me, you have to either swallow your loathing of BA and pay £3k'ish Flex economy (guessing 2 adults and 4 children) or:
London DCT US HUB + MCO £2.8k with US Carrier or
London-CDG (or AMS) + 2 stops £2.3k with KLM/AF
You could also try the above to Tampa or Miami (via Toll road not too bad) could be cheaper.
Profot, I regret to inform you that Disney has descended to be a pale shadow of what it was 20 years or so ago. If you are disappointed in BA's decline in service nowadays, that's nothing to what has happened at Disney. There's not a decent restaurant in the place any more. Gto NASA at Cape Kennedy instead to be impressed.
Michael Esiner's long reign as CEO there turned it from a fun and enjoyable place into a cash-cow moneygrabbing machine. Don't take my word for it. Roy Disney, Walt's nephew, said the same thing. Walt must be turning in his grave.
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Thanks gents, as time was limiting I took the lazy option and booked us on virgin through their website, bit heavy on cost but direct and good timings.
Hope Disney isn't too bad, im dreading it already!
Hope Disney isn't too bad, im dreading it already!
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Whatever you do, profot, stay away from an attraction known as "It's A Small World". Step foot in there and you will be condemned to have the really annoying song that goes with it, stuck in your head for all of eternity. 
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P.S. Apologies to those that have heard this song in the past and that will now, thanks to my reminder, spend the rest of the day humming it.....
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P.S. Apologies to those that have heard this song in the past and that will now, thanks to my reminder, spend the rest of the day humming it.....
Jetset lady.
You should be ashamed!!!! Doing one person a favour, and giving the rest of us back that BL**DY tune in our heads.
My two are now 18 and 21, so I thought I'd escaped...
Huh!! You deserve to re-hear Pirates of the Caribbean in perpetuity.
You should be ashamed!!!! Doing one person a favour, and giving the rest of us back that BL**DY tune in our heads.
My two are now 18 and 21, so I thought I'd escaped...
Huh!! You deserve to re-hear Pirates of the Caribbean in perpetuity.
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I'm sorry, Ancient Observer. But having got the song stuck back in my head, I thought it only fair that I should share this with the general population. My Mum told me I should always share. 
The really annoying thing is that I can't actually remember the words, so end up with something along the lines of...
"It's a small, small world....(pause)......la, la, la, laaa, laaaa...."
Sadly, I don't remember the Pirates of The Caribbean. I think I must have missed that one out!
Jsl
The really annoying thing is that I can't actually remember the words, so end up with something along the lines of...
"It's a small, small world....(pause)......la, la, la, laaa, laaaa...."
Sadly, I don't remember the Pirates of The Caribbean. I think I must have missed that one out!
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Having been to Orlando twice (cgarters via Glasgow) we managed not to do Disney, preferring the variety of the other Theme parks.
So I've never heard that song - so you ain't got me Jsl -Na Na
So I've never heard that song - so you ain't got me Jsl -Na Na
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And I just had to go and click on it, didn't I! Even though I know the damned song! 
Go on Westie, I dare ya...
Profot, save yourself! Island of Adventures, Sea World, Cape Kennedy, Universal, Dennys....in fact, anywhere but Disney! Tell the kids Micky has gone on holiday to Paris or something.
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Go on Westie, I dare ya...
Profot, save yourself! Island of Adventures, Sea World, Cape Kennedy, Universal, Dennys....in fact, anywhere but Disney! Tell the kids Micky has gone on holiday to Paris or something.
Jsl
JSL
Here you go........take the punishment!!!!
YouTube - Pirates of The Caribbean Ride
Yup, and I clicked on the small world one. Great memories of the girls when they were young. Off to see the photos now.
or
YouTube - Pirates of the Caribbean @ Disneyland
Here you go........take the punishment!!!!
YouTube - Pirates of The Caribbean Ride
Yup, and I clicked on the small world one. Great memories of the girls when they were young. Off to see the photos now.
or
YouTube - Pirates of the Caribbean @ Disneyland
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Why did I click on it aswell?????
I wish I didn't have to go but I think Disney is inevitable as is some ridiculous dolphin swimming caper.
Any offers to take my family for me while I go on a real holiday?
I wish I didn't have to go but I think Disney is inevitable as is some ridiculous dolphin swimming caper.
Any offers to take my family for me while I go on a real holiday?