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Can't believe we have yet another thread on all this, it's been done to the death.
With respect, I don't think it's "been done to death" at all.
I read the piece by Jagdish Sihra as linked in the original post. There is no mention of the flight being special or underwritten for the banking world or anyone else for that matter. It reads just like the launch of a new Club service.
There are some very frequent flyers on Pax & SLF, particularly those of us who fly regularly to the States. Having read the press release and found it of interest as a possible new service route for my trips, I don't think it's unacceptable to start checking times, availability and pricing.
Having done that, I find (as it would appear do others) that there are a few questions raised as to what this service is. 1. 9hrs 45mins is a very long trip to JFK - hardly time saving. 2. There is restricted availability and 3. It's pretty expensive.
I apologise if I have somehow upset you by making comment here rather than elsewhere.
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Hi Strake,
1. 9hrs 45mins is a very long trip to JFK - hardly time saving.
It is a long sector granted but the ease of access to LCY for the City boys and a 15 min check in goes a long way to remedy that for total time taken.
2. There is restricted availability
That's because the bank which requested BA provide the service is the primary customer and has block booked many of the seats. Any further seats sold will make an extra tidy profit.
3. It's pretty expensive
Compared to what, there is no comparable service that'll take you from the heart of London to JFK. Comparing it with a Club cabin from LHR most definately is not comparing like with like.
Sorry if I sound a little biased but I think it's a great idea for once and wish this route all the best.
1. 9hrs 45mins is a very long trip to JFK - hardly time saving.
It is a long sector granted but the ease of access to LCY for the City boys and a 15 min check in goes a long way to remedy that for total time taken.
2. There is restricted availability
That's because the bank which requested BA provide the service is the primary customer and has block booked many of the seats. Any further seats sold will make an extra tidy profit.
3. It's pretty expensive
Compared to what, there is no comparable service that'll take you from the heart of London to JFK. Comparing it with a Club cabin from LHR most definately is not comparing like with like.
Sorry if I sound a little biased but I think it's a great idea for once and wish this route all the best.
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Strake,
All good points, those thrifty bankers are paying way over the odds for travel between LON-NYC, not realy, the bank customers will be picking up the tab and when they stop paying over the odds, the numbers won't add up anyway.
The whole operation looks like it has too many heels.
1/ LCY arrival history.
2/ Very un green.
3/ Hi cost of operation.
4/ Hi cost tickets.
5/ Slow to NYC.
6/ Stop in SNN.
7/ Only 2 aircraft in config, if 1 out of service, how will svcs operate.
8/ Removes 64 poss prem customers from LHR per day.
On the plus side, it keeps employed a hugh number of pilots for just two small aircraft, highest pilot/aircraft ratio in the airline world I'm told, does anyone know the number of pilots on this operation ???? I will be sitting down next time a I look at this thread.
All good points, those thrifty bankers are paying way over the odds for travel between LON-NYC, not realy, the bank customers will be picking up the tab and when they stop paying over the odds, the numbers won't add up anyway.
The whole operation looks like it has too many heels.
1/ LCY arrival history.
2/ Very un green.
3/ Hi cost of operation.
4/ Hi cost tickets.
5/ Slow to NYC.
6/ Stop in SNN.
7/ Only 2 aircraft in config, if 1 out of service, how will svcs operate.
8/ Removes 64 poss prem customers from LHR per day.
On the plus side, it keeps employed a hugh number of pilots for just two small aircraft, highest pilot/aircraft ratio in the airline world I'm told, does anyone know the number of pilots on this operation ???? I will be sitting down next time a I look at this thread.
London Liverpool Street to Heathrow 1hr:10mins (extra 10 mins added to Railtrack Journey Planner) add premium class check-in 50 mins. LHR-JFK 7.40hrs non-stop. 1:40 hour to clear JFK and travel to downtown hotel. Total door to door 11hrs 20m.
OR
40mins from office to LCY and check-in. 9hrs 45min stopping at SNN. 1hr to clear JFK and travel downtown...about 11hrs:25min door-to-door.
All a bit finger in the air but I don't think I'm way out on timings having quite a bit of experience clearing JFK as a premium pax.
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40mins from office to LCY and check-in. 9hrs 45min stopping at SNN. 1hr to clear JFK and travel downtown...about 11hrs:25min door-to-door.
All a bit finger in the air but I don't think I'm way out on timings having quite a bit of experience clearing JFK as a premium pax.
All this discussion about schedule time ignores that, on my experience from the last two trips out of LHR, the average time from doors closed to wheels up was 75 minutes. The last two from LCY, about 5-10 mins.
Living close to LCY, the days of morning riverside fog that disrupt ops are about 5 to 8 per year. More often than not cleared by 0930. In over 100 flights through there it has never delayed me.
Living close to LCY, the days of morning riverside fog that disrupt ops are about 5 to 8 per year. More often than not cleared by 0930. In over 100 flights through there it has never delayed me.
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Originally Posted by Joetom
On the plus side, it keeps employed a hugh [sic] number of pilots for just two small aircraft, highest pilot/aircraft ratio in the airline world I'm told, does anyone know the number of pilots on this operation ???? I will be sitting down next time a I look at this thread.
