Why Don't Aircraft Toilets Have Windows?
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That gap in the windows is where the air conditioning ducting runs
But, to get back on topic, why didn't Boeing route the duct through one of the toilets?
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I'd imagine its just down to the position of the packs as to why the ducting is routed this way and better to have no window rather then extra weight of more ducting routing it through one of the toilets!Anyway imagine us men having a window to look out when where in the toilet,god help the poor woman using it after us!!
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Your talking complete boloxs rafo
http://www.smartcockpit.com/data/pdf...nditioning.pdf
http://www.smartcockpit.com/data/pdf...nditioning.pdf
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Im pretty sure its a Boeing/Airbus thing. I've never seen a Boeing aircraft lavatory with windows, but every Airbus lavatory has had a window.
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I think all airline toilets may have windows but not to allow passengers to gaze out at the clouds.
I recently sat in row one of an aircraft. A lady went into the forward lavatory. I was reading the inflight magazine but I was waiting for her to come out.
I was engrossed in what I was reading so I wasn't watching what was going on.
After 10 minutes I got up and tried to open the lavatory door. It was locked so I thought the lady was still inside.
I realised she had been in for a while and as soon as a cabin crew member came to the front of the aircraft I pointed this out to him.
He too believed she was still in the lavatory and lifted the receiver of the phone above the cabin crew seats.
He dialled a number and listened intently. He then went to the lock on the lavatory door and appeared to flip it up, presumably revealing some kind of very small window.
He peered in and realised there was no-one inside. The door had somehow locked itself when the lady came out.
As I was reading I had not noticed her go past my seat.
Presumably the flight attendant's use of the phone means they must also be able to listen to what's going on in the toilets.
I recently sat in row one of an aircraft. A lady went into the forward lavatory. I was reading the inflight magazine but I was waiting for her to come out.
I was engrossed in what I was reading so I wasn't watching what was going on.
After 10 minutes I got up and tried to open the lavatory door. It was locked so I thought the lady was still inside.
I realised she had been in for a while and as soon as a cabin crew member came to the front of the aircraft I pointed this out to him.
He too believed she was still in the lavatory and lifted the receiver of the phone above the cabin crew seats.
He dialled a number and listened intently. He then went to the lock on the lavatory door and appeared to flip it up, presumably revealing some kind of very small window.
He peered in and realised there was no-one inside. The door had somehow locked itself when the lady came out.
As I was reading I had not noticed her go past my seat.
Presumably the flight attendant's use of the phone means they must also be able to listen to what's going on in the toilets.
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As you see described above, there are a range of options which have been fitted over the years for window/no window, independent of type or operator. Because what an airline gets from the aircraft manufacturer is essentially a standard empty aluminium tube, with windows where the manufacturer saw fit. Airlines then each do their own internal arrangement of seats, galleys and toilets to meet their particular requirements and standards, also changing these with time, and windows in the toilets comes an awful long way down the priorities. Obviously in widebodies there are mid-cabin toilet units where you can't have a window anyway.
Boeing have a bad habit of taking sometimes one, sometimes several, window positions abeam the wing leading edge, as described above to route their various technical services, leading to a window-seat-with-no-window arrangement; Airbus seem to have managed to avoid this. Likewise on some rear-engned jets you can find one or more windowless rows at the back.
THe Hawker Siddeley 748 as configured by British Airways some years ago had a rear toilet with not only a window, but the emergency exit in there as well.
Not on a jet, where big problems tend to go out of the exhaust anyway, but on propeller planes you are on the right lines, and you will find on these that not only is there no window directly in the plane of the propellers, but if you look at the fuselage from the outside at this point you may see strengthening strips attached to the fuselage. When propeller de-icing is in use (the black strips along the edges of the propeller blades), tyically in cold, wet clouds, the ice will be slung off the props by centrifugal force and hit the fuselage just here, actually quite hard, a bit disconcerting for someone at a window (but a good sound for the aircrew to hear it working). No window there also reduced prop noise in the cabin a bit.
Boeing have a bad habit of taking sometimes one, sometimes several, window positions abeam the wing leading edge, as described above to route their various technical services, leading to a window-seat-with-no-window arrangement; Airbus seem to have managed to avoid this. Likewise on some rear-engned jets you can find one or more windowless rows at the back.
THe Hawker Siddeley 748 as configured by British Airways some years ago had a rear toilet with not only a window, but the emergency exit in there as well.
Originally Posted by Albert Square
Is the gap in the windows (forward of the wing) for protection in the event of an uncontained engine failure?
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Presumably the flight attendant's use of the phone means they must also be able to listen to what's going on in the toilets.
The phone call you saw was the cabin crew member phoning the flight crew to ask them to tell them what was happening using the cctv, not the cabin crew member listening in. We are specially vetted as flight crew to have acess to possibly very personal information, much as the operators of the latest 'see through' scanners in the sirports are. Cabincrew are not so authorised.
I hope that puts everyones mind at rest.
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