Obese have right to two airline seats
The court did state that the second-seat-entitlement only applies to people who are severely overweight due to a medical condition. Eating too many pies does not give you the right to claim an extra seat. How are they going to check this, a statement from your doctor?
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Why all this fuss-making? The rules have always been clear - two seats to be booked for overweight passengers ( extended seat belt provided ), no
children or handicapped passengers in emergency rows. All for safety reasons, nothing else. When this continues, law makers will provide the
safety cards.
children or handicapped passengers in emergency rows. All for safety reasons, nothing else. When this continues, law makers will provide the
safety cards.
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I also pay those same taxes and it boils my blood to see where my taxes are going. But at least it is the government paying and does not threaten my job where as this ruling potentially does. The airlines are going through a difficult enough time as it is without, out of touch judges adding to their woes! All of this on top of ineffectual security which the airlines are having to pay for just so some politician can be seen to be doing the right thing.
The world is truly going mad.
I also pay those same taxes and it boils my blood to see where my taxes are going. But at least it is the government paying and does not threaten my job where as this ruling potentially does. The airlines are going through a difficult enough time as it is without, out of touch judges adding to their woes! All of this on top of ineffectual security which the airlines are having to pay for just so some politician can be seen to be doing the right thing.
The world is truly going mad.
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Symbian i agree, and if you read my thread thoroughly it does say that we all have to pay taxes to cover these people. I don't think this ruling will have any effect on the airline industry, poor management and politicians on the other hand will do that with great effect.
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Some courts in some countries have the ability to make law and some do not. If that is not the case in Canada, then the judges were simply executing the law - and you must rant at the politicians that made the law
It is obvious that the old fogies who sit on the Supreme Court of Canada are completely out of touch. Where is all this madness going to end.
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I'm all for a weight allowance of say 100kg for male and 90kg for female, including bags. If you go over this weight, you pay. So if you weigh over 100kg, tough, you pay for your extra weight and your bags. If you are a normal weight, you can take yourself and your bags, up to the allowed weight. Sounds fair enough to me, but then I weigh 75kg
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It would be impossible to prove discrimination. The single seat is not being refused; what's not available at the time of booking, by sheer bad luck, is the spare one for the oversize bottom to expand into.
In reality, it is only a factor on flights that are full, where the airline is being deprived of more revenue by the big bum. I can imagine that many will find suitable excuses ranging from inadequate safety specifications for persons over a certain weight, to safety in evacuation - all of which overrule "human rights".
It is not really the law being an ass though is it - it is the business failing to think how to accomodate such people. It is pretty clear that charging an individual 2x fare based solely upon size is quite unfair when all remaining passengers are NOT charged by weight & size (Ryanair have yet to place two petite grannies in the same seat).
Regardless of the sloth/medical problem that has put a person in that situation, better solutions exist than a blunt double charge.
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The original decision was not made by a court but by the Canadian Transportation Agency. Three of the seven codgers at the Supreme Court just felt it wasn't worth their while reviewing it.
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How about upon arrival at the check in desk, the obese not by choice present a medical certificate that states the type of illness and they would be entitled to an extra seat free of charge.
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If is a certified by a doctor that is a medical contion it might be understandable. What about guys which are 1.90 m? Their legs cannot fit in the crampled space of economy.
If you are uncofortable in economy buy a business class ticket, alot of space. Does a 6 month pregnant woman have the right to an extra seat? The whole story is absurd.
That could be streached to the point that an obese when buying clothing shall pay the same price of a slim guy. Or if a big mac is not sufficient he can get another free because is still hungry!
If you are uncofortable in economy buy a business class ticket, alot of space. Does a 6 month pregnant woman have the right to an extra seat? The whole story is absurd.
That could be streached to the point that an obese when buying clothing shall pay the same price of a slim guy. Or if a big mac is not sufficient he can get another free because is still hungry!
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Based on how many times I have seen a fatty taking up two seats on a flight I suspect the actual impact to our ticket costs is going to be next to nil. If a plane was 100% sold then there is an impact but the reality is that this is rare and rarer still that a fatty is on that flight.
Its revenue protection and preventing a creeping rot that the airlines are worried about.
Speaking personally, they should ban all wheelchair-bound and disabled folk from flights. That'll save a ton of cash, there's always some old-fart waiting around for assistance with his useless legs dangling away..
Its revenue protection and preventing a creeping rot that the airlines are worried about.
Speaking personally, they should ban all wheelchair-bound and disabled folk from flights. That'll save a ton of cash, there's always some old-fart waiting around for assistance with his useless legs dangling away..
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Speaking personally, they should ban all wheelchair-bound and disabled folk from flights. That'll save a ton of cash, there's always some old-fart waiting around for assistance with his useless legs dangling away..
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F3G, that's only funny if you read my other thread and realise its me that started it..
With my last para on this thread that you have quoted here, you need to grab a dictionary and look up 'Sarcastic'. As would be clear if you read the entire post without looking to shout down at everyone you would see that we are agreeing on the subject of obesity and the arguers that feel that fatties should pay more are being discriminatory and so I simply turned the point around and said that old people....
Or is it you that is also being sarcastic and I am just confused.
[edited to change last para in case I am being a dunce]
With my last para on this thread that you have quoted here, you need to grab a dictionary and look up 'Sarcastic'. As would be clear if you read the entire post without looking to shout down at everyone you would see that we are agreeing on the subject of obesity and the arguers that feel that fatties should pay more are being discriminatory and so I simply turned the point around and said that old people....
Or is it you that is also being sarcastic and I am just confused.
[edited to change last para in case I am being a dunce]