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Old 31st Dec 2007, 21:38
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Why is it in Uk we deride things like final salary schemes-they were, and I was in one, a genuine benefit for a lifetime of honest endeavour. Its seems fine to say throw them out but why not throw out share options and executive packages too. Are the BAA workers more guilty of greed than the greedy stupid bank execs who leant YOUR money to people who could never repay it

I agree the BAA strike is unfortuneate -and indeed it intrudes on my own plans-but BAA are a shambles and always have been and are regulated incredibly badly. The workers there have a point and they are entitled to make their protest - if it was France or Italy or dare I say it the USA the airports would be closed for a lot longer
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Well Said That Man!!! Hear Hear!!!

If only we had descended on Whitehall and laid siege to Downing Street en-masse at the first indicators of Final Pension Scheme skullduggery - Standard Life was first, closely followed by Harrods as I recall! The government would have had their hands forced!

We are paying now for the Thatcher years, whatever lies are being spun about "people living longer" and "interest rates being lower than expected". In Thatcher's Britain, people were encouraged to retire early on full pensions (How many thousand voluntary severance schemes, at colossal cost to the Pension Funds of private companies, were offered?) All those "Fat Cat" pensioners spending winter in their overseas properies were financed at our expense (not their fault though - it was the fault of corporate greed and the graduate management concept that only young employees were of any real value!)
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Old 1st Jan 2008, 00:49
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Sure this must be posted somewhere but can't find it- maybe everyone is New Year revelling but BBC reporting strikes are off subject to union ratification
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Old 1st Jan 2008, 03:24
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Yes - I heard that on the news at 04.00!

Good - I am glad they managed to reach an agreement!
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Old 1st Jan 2008, 06:22
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We are paying now for the Thatcher years,
No. You, me and just about every other UK taxpayer are paying for the Blair/Brown years.
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Old 1st Jan 2008, 11:50
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Yup, the chickens are starting to come home to roost from Gordon's "Prudent" off-balance sheet economics.

We are now living in a country run on Enron principles , but never mind, Tony & Gordon have index linked, 100% maximum salary pensions. So it's comforting to know that they'll be OK when things start to really fall about our ears, never mind the current state that the country doesn't have enough money to pay the police their agreed wage increase in full.
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Old 5th Jan 2008, 16:50
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I fail to understand the apparent hostility of some people who do not have "final salary" pension schemes, or who have lost them, towards those still in such schemes or those defending them. The only outcome of such an attitude is a "race to the bottom".
If low wages, bad pensions etc. is a route to prosperity then the UK would be more like ,say, India is today rather than the affluent society it clearly is.
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Old 5th Jan 2008, 17:31
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It may be affluent from where you are viewing it! Over a million children living in what the Government defines as 'poverty, OAPs getting by on about £135 a week, the worst state pension in the EU, soaring costs of basic food and fuel. We live in a country in which it is unwise to be poor or ill or both!

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