Fireworks in passenger cabin
Pilot of the Airwaves
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Close to the Med
Age: 74
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Fireworks in passenger cabin
Local British press on the Costa del Sol report that at Malaga last week, the Guardia Civil discovered a woman passenger, on a private flight from Moscow, had 33 rockets and 26 bangers, in a box in the passenger cabin.
The fireworks were not correctly packed either, being carried in a dangerous condition.They were confiscated and destroyed.
The fireworks were not correctly packed either, being carried in a dangerous condition.They were confiscated and destroyed.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: platform9
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The fireworks were not correctly packed either, being carried in a dangerous condition.They were confiscated and destroyed.
I doubt that even if they were properly packed they can be accepted on a pax a/c (or even civil a/c). The only explosives that can be carried in the cgo compartment are the 1.4S type.
I doubt that even if they were properly packed they can be accepted on a pax a/c (or even civil a/c). The only explosives that can be carried in the cgo compartment are the 1.4S type.
That reminds me of one of our vacations where my wife and kids wanted to buy cheap fireworks to bring on our flight back home. I said no, but I got a lot of flak and of course I've learned never to trust my wife as she would be the kind to ignore my advice to save a buck.
Was there any safe way out of this? Could they have shipped them home some way?
Was there any safe way out of this? Could they have shipped them home some way?
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 71
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Who in their right mind would actually even consider taking explosives aboard an aeroplane... are they completely nuts? Let me just get this right... you want to save a few quid and have a fabulous bonfire-night bash? I guess that a multi-million dollar jet going up in smoke over London would be a pretty spectacular sight... I shake my head in disbelief!
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,312
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I believe that in the UK anyway, Fireworks,pyrotechnics & signalling flares, etc are not allowed anywhere on board an airliner.
Seems prudent.
Seems prudent.
Join Date: May 2002
Location: LGW - Hub of the Universe!
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
As a truck driver a few years ago I used to haul pyrotechnics across Europe by road as part of "groupage" freight traffic. When carrying pyrotechnics, I had to have red "explosive" hazard labels clearly displayed (this was in 1980) and I was not allowed to use the normal passenger ferries across the English Channel.
P&O and Townsend Thoresen both used to operate separate "freighters" for trucks carrying hazardous cargo and the precise nature of the hazard had to be declared before embarkation.
I'm pretty sure there is no "normal" way of shipping pyrothechnics around the world, but looking at the number of cheap firework shops springing up in the UK with many of them coming from China, I guess someone has found a way to get them through.
P&O and Townsend Thoresen both used to operate separate "freighters" for trucks carrying hazardous cargo and the precise nature of the hazard had to be declared before embarkation.
I'm pretty sure there is no "normal" way of shipping pyrothechnics around the world, but looking at the number of cheap firework shops springing up in the UK with many of them coming from China, I guess someone has found a way to get them through.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Poland
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bealine,
There is a "normal" way to ship the fireworks around the world.
China Shipping, COSCO and Maersk allow to ship fireworks in the containers.
The restrictions are:
1. Classes: 1.4S, 1.4G and 1.3G , nothing else.
2. They must have a Dangerous Goods Declaration Form for each container.
3. They require to have a "powder list" with detailed description what is inside, diameter, kind of firework, total powder weight, flash composition weight etc... BEFORE container is loaded on board the ship.
4. Sometimes they require to have an ADR certificate clearly saying that the product fall in a 1.4 or 1.3 class.
5. You have to pay extra 3000 US$.
Most of fireworks all around the world are made in China or Taiwan, the reason is.... they have over 1000 years tradition of making it. The price is no longer a main factor in this business.
That's all
p.s. Sorry for my english.
Skip
There is a "normal" way to ship the fireworks around the world.
China Shipping, COSCO and Maersk allow to ship fireworks in the containers.
The restrictions are:
1. Classes: 1.4S, 1.4G and 1.3G , nothing else.
2. They must have a Dangerous Goods Declaration Form for each container.
3. They require to have a "powder list" with detailed description what is inside, diameter, kind of firework, total powder weight, flash composition weight etc... BEFORE container is loaded on board the ship.
4. Sometimes they require to have an ADR certificate clearly saying that the product fall in a 1.4 or 1.3 class.
5. You have to pay extra 3000 US$.
Most of fireworks all around the world are made in China or Taiwan, the reason is.... they have over 1000 years tradition of making it. The price is no longer a main factor in this business.
That's all
p.s. Sorry for my english.
Skip
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Umina Beach
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Most of fireworks all around the world are made in China or Taiwan, the reason is.... they have over 1000 years tradition of making it. The price is no longer a main factor in this business.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Poland
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Grumpysnail,
Can't agree with You totally.
Of course, the labour is cheaper than in other countries (much more), the workplace safety .... is far better than 5-10 years ago.
It's a longer story, but it's offtopic now.
Cheers
Skip
Can't agree with You totally.
Of course, the labour is cheaper than in other countries (much more), the workplace safety .... is far better than 5-10 years ago.
It's a longer story, but it's offtopic now.
Cheers
Skip
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: heathrow
Posts: 990
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Local British press on the Costa del Sol report that at Malaga last week, the Guardia Civil discovered a woman passenger, on a private flight from Moscow, had 33 rockets and 26 bangers, in a box in the passenger cabin.