Safety Demo - really needed?
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From: Between BHX and EMA
CJ - damn good points about the practising. Mrs UFO and I cruise quite a bit, all cruises (UK registered or departing, anyway) you have to muster to the emergency station (thereby knowing where it is), without using the lifts (as in a real emergency), with your lifejacket, demonstrate you can put it on and know the attitude to adopt to jump off the ship. Obviously this would be a bit impractical on an aircraft, but a good move would be for final departure lounges (where we spend bloody hours waiting) to have a few aircraft seats, with the lifejackets installed in the correct location, and the oxygen mask droppable so we could pratice getting the lifejacket out, putting it on, putting the mask on and pulling the tube to activate it. If just one or two pax had a go (I would be first in the queue) many of the others would watch and maybe learn something.
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From: Down Under
It takes just a few minutes and if someone isn't watching, I politely ask them to put down their book/newspaper/etc... Your book isn't going to help you in an emergency, but knowing where your nearest exit is and that you have to PULL the oxygen mask to start the oxygen flow, could all be of great use to you.
As for the videos, I much prefer the live demo. People are more inclined to take notice if it's happening in the aisle infront of them.
As for the videos, I much prefer the live demo. People are more inclined to take notice if it's happening in the aisle infront of them.
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From: Costa del Gatwick
Even if you travel on the same type of aircraft, the airline may have specified different emergency equipment from other airlines (life jackets with one or two chambers, and a strap to tie, or clip together). Also the same aircraft type within an airline may be laid out differently or have different equipment as the airline may have leased aircraft from various sources.
It's always better to know it and not need it, than need it and not know it (hope that doesn't sound too patronising!)
It's always better to know it and not need it, than need it and not know it (hope that doesn't sound too patronising!)
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From: UK
1) How hard do I have to jerk on that oxygen mask thingie to get it to flow, without pulling the hose off?
When the masks are deployed, they are hanging from a bit of string (at least in a B737). In getting the mask to your face, pulling the string releases a pin, which starts the chemical oxygen generation. There is enough slack in the actual air line so that you will not be tugging on that to get it started.
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From: London
Dan Air 87.
It's Vic Reeves and Dani Behr doing the voices in the Virgin briefing.
If she were to give the brief dressed like this, more people might watch.
Dani Behr.
It's Vic Reeves and Dani Behr doing the voices in the Virgin briefing.
If she were to give the brief dressed like this, more people might watch.
Dani Behr.
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From: LGW
""Even if it was, what on earth are you going to do about it if they don't watch and listen? Fine them on the spot?"" poster -ChristiaanJ
I would off load them simple as that. I have done in the past, and will continue to do so. If they cant listen in a normal every day situation, they are not going to listen in an emergency situation . I have offloaded a number of pax for continually interruting the safety demo.
I have NO time for people like this.
I would off load them simple as that. I have done in the past, and will continue to do so. If they cant listen in a normal every day situation, they are not going to listen in an emergency situation . I have offloaded a number of pax for continually interruting the safety demo.
I have NO time for people like this.
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From: France
Originally Posted by GEAR_DOWN
I would offload them, simple as that. I have done in the past...
"....pax continually interrupting the safety demo. " OK....
But what are you going to do about me? Clearly not paying attention : barely watching the circus, while turning around to check the exits, fiddling with my safety belt, finding and reading the safety card, diving under my seat to see if there at least IS a life-vest?
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From: On the western edge of The Moor
Can't help wondering that if innatentive/disruptive SLF are an issue why have airlines (not cabin crew) not come up with strategies to deal with the issue.
Is it that the bean counters are content to leave well alone as there is no "cost" benefit to changing the method of briefing. "it's a legal thing so we'll do the minimum"?
Is it that they want to keep it laid back so as not to scare pax, or put them off flying with them again.
Look at some of the road safety ads now around using shock tactics. Industrial safety uses the same techniques.
OK the road accident rate is far higher than the airlines but I can't help but feel that airlines & regulators are getting complacent over a important safety feature of airline travel.
Is it that the bean counters are content to leave well alone as there is no "cost" benefit to changing the method of briefing. "it's a legal thing so we'll do the minimum"?
Is it that they want to keep it laid back so as not to scare pax, or put them off flying with them again.
Look at some of the road safety ads now around using shock tactics. Industrial safety uses the same techniques.
OK the road accident rate is far higher than the airlines but I can't help but feel that airlines & regulators are getting complacent over a important safety feature of airline travel.
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From: South of France
It's Vic Reeves and Dani Behr doing the voices in the Virgin briefing
Sorry to be a pedant and to possibly disappoint
....but it's not Dani Behr anymore....
About 3 months ago, Virgin considerably reduced the length of their safety video. For some reason they also dropped Ms Behr for someone else who's name I can't remember but it does appear on the credits at the end.
Sorry to be a pedant and to possibly disappoint
....but it's not Dani Behr anymore....About 3 months ago, Virgin considerably reduced the length of their safety video. For some reason they also dropped Ms Behr for someone else who's name I can't remember but it does appear on the credits at the end.
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From: London
If anyone is interested in watching the Virgin briefing, it's here.
I've noticed that whenever I fly with VA, it always gets most people watching it, which must be a good thing.
I've noticed that whenever I fly with VA, it always gets most people watching it, which must be a good thing.
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From: I'll go and ask the Captain
The chances of getting killed in a car accident are much greater than in a plane crash, yet the driver or whoever never breifs the passengers on what to do in case of fire, smoke inside, seatbelts etc.
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From: France
419,
Thanks for the link to the video.
Nicely done, including the little note about unwrapping the life vest first.....
AVCP,
My thanks for the oxygen info too.
The "live" demos always give you the impression you're supposed to jerk on the plastic hose, which is obviously not the case from the photo.
Thanks for the link to the video.
Nicely done, including the little note about unwrapping the life vest first.....
AVCP,
My thanks for the oxygen info too.
The "live" demos always give you the impression you're supposed to jerk on the plastic hose, which is obviously not the case from the photo.
