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Old 17th Apr 2007, 21:57
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Welcome to PPRuNe FHA

Now calm down please...
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 13:53
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Hi Tightslot.
Point taken. I just don't like seeing the fare-paying public being treated with contempt. Without them, you and I would be doing something else for a living; let's not lose sight of that.
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Ranting post from a brand new member..........now there's a funny thing !
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Dan Air 87
This is a bit daft when people start posting messages containing the dreaded words of human rights. What will be next- compensation to molify your hurt feelings?
Yes, compensation would be appropriate. Hit the airline's bottom line, otherwise what's to stop them doing it again?
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 19:15
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Compensation

Can see this one going far in the courts of human rights !

Get real, don't like - don't fly !
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 19:41
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Hi FHA,
I take your point re my post! I am amazed that this airline expects pax to buy their meals on board with a captive market as if you are going to go somewhere else. I wonder what this outfit would do if pax embark carrying large goodie bags from Macdonalds / KFC/ Burger King!
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 20:47
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I think at the end it comes down to what's in GSM's conditions of carriage, which if the flight was booked on the web the booker would have seen - and presumably accepted. If the conditions say "no self-provided food may be consumed" there's not much the pax can do about it. If the conditions don't say that and this e-mail instruction was sent after the booking was made, I don't see how GSM can retrospectively apply such a condition - its not enshrined in aviation law that pax can't consume their own food and such a change would effectively mean GSM were trying to vary the contract between passenger and airline. Of course GSM could always try the "you are required to comply with all instructions from air crew" line as a get out, but as eating food is hardly threatening to the AC or other pax I don't think that'd get very far if the pax ignorred that instruction.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 07:18
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Can see this one going far in the courts of human rights !
Get real, don't like - don't fly !


That's exactly what a lot of potential customers are doing - even makes Ryanair look attractive.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 08:09
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If you go to the food courts in large shopping malls there is usually a notice to the effect that "tables are reserved for customers purchasing food in the food court". I would not take my own food into a restaurant and I would not take my own booze into a pub and drink it.

I think it is only fair that if you do not pre-book the airline provided food then you must not bring your own grub with you.

I'm sure ryan, easy and the like will have a similar policy. Today in the LCC's the ticket price is exactly that, the price to get on the plane, you pay for everything else ...... baggage, seating, food, drinks etc.

If you want food on GSM longhaul book premier economy or business class!
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 09:32
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I think it is only fair that if you do not pre-book the airline provided food then you must not bring your own grub with you.
Cobblers.

Essentially, you are paying for the airline to fly you from A to B and back again. Your comparison with a food court is spurious -- you don't go to a food court to fly. You don't go to an airline to eat their food.

If they don't charge you for food, fine. You should not be obliged to buy overpriced food you don't want. What next? Each passenger must buy five lottery tickets?

OP - Let us know if the food police descend upon you. (They won't).
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 12:05
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To try and use the "certain foodstuffs must be maintained at a certain temperature" rule seems some what nanny-ish. I've had more food poisoning from airline food, both as crew and as passenger, than I've had from any other commerically produced food in my life.
Lots of foodstuffs are not temperature sensitive, and so long as you don't remove them from the aeroplane on landing, you are not trying to import them. Are they going to try and stop you take a mars bar or some maltesers onboard?
Our standard 'travel kit' out of MAN always conatins some chocolate and IrnBru. So far I've never got food poisoning off that..... and I always manage to force it down just before we land in the US, thankfully.....

Looking on the bright (sort of) side - if they insist you eat their food only, and you get food poisoning, you could go all American and sue them into next year
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 12:18
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Your comparison with a food court is spurious
I can go into a bottle shop and get a bottle of Miller for 80p, I go into the pub and the same bottle is £3.25, whats stopping me from just taking a carryout into the pub with me?

As airlines have food available for purchase they have every rite to restrict passengers from bringing their own!! Jeez if I can get to the USA for £99, I dont mind paying for a meal.


I bet you are one of the ones that has about 20pairs of nicked headphones in the drawer beside your bed and use them everytime you fly to save another £2.00!!!!!
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 12:38
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As airlines have food available for purchase they have every rite to restrict passengers from bringing their own!! Jeez if I can get to the USA for £99, I dont mind paying for a meal.

You have missed the point again - cafe's and restaurants main business is selling food only - airlines are flying - your number one reason for paying is for a seat to get you from A-B not for gourmet dining.Yes some airlines ban you from taking and drinking alcohol - for safety purposes but to say they can ban you from taking food on board is utterly ridiculous - what next - in order for them to charge you for the entertainment they provide - ban all MP3 players - reading materials and whatever else takes your fancy?
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 13:01
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ok ok, but dont come running to me when they rip out the galleys and put extra seats in and the price of your tickets go up!!!!!


Actually I do make a choice on airline regarding catering and IFE, so I do expect gourmet if fly first or business.

Maybe they should allow your own food on board but charge a corkage or unwrap fee for the privelidge.

Can imagine the comotion if you went into McD's grabbed a seat and started tucking into fish and chips.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:01
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What about going into McD's, buying a meal, sitting down and then being charged to listen to your iPod instead of the music they are playing through their stereo.

Same thing here as far as I can see - you are a paying customer of McD's and are being charged for not partaking in one of their ancillary services.

Your argument around restaurants would only be valid if Globespan advertised itself as a flying restaurant.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:26
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Food on Board

As a crew member who works with GSM
No passenger has every been stopped from eating there own food onboard any of our aircraft. Lots of people do it including bringing there own soft drinks and water with them.
The only thing crew stop passengers from consuming is there own alcohol for obvious reasons.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:53
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Thanks for the clarification - long may it continue.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:57
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Maybe they should allow your own food on board but charge a corkage or unwrap fee for the privelidge.
God loves a trier - are you an accountant by any chance?
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:59
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Your argument around restaurants would only be valid if Globespan advertised itself as a flying restaurant.
Think you would be pi$$ed off if you were onboard, peckish and thirsty and there was sweet FA they could supply for you to eat or drink. I know they don't advertise as flying restaurants however the paying public have come to expect at least some kind of catering onboard the majority of flights especially longhaul.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 15:03
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Not an accountant but my brother is. Just think the world of travel has been opened up to a whole new audience due to LoCo's. Part of the LoCo model is the sale of ancilliaries. If no-one purchases these ancilliaries the cost of the ticket will go up, so we will end up paying for food that we haven't eaten in the long run.
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