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Old 8th Feb 2007, 07:52
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Well they got it right here!

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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:00
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Question:

Why Does LHR have a MOTNE RWY report and LTN not. e.g.

EGLL 080850Z 07009KT 1300 R09L/P1500 R09R/P1500 SN OVC004 01/00 Q0985 09290095 NOSIG

EGGW 080850Z 08013KT 1000 SN SCT003 BKN005 M01/M02 Q0985=

Any ideas?
(p.s. I know there are SNOTAMS issued for these airports - but doesn't help those aircraft en-route getting WX via ACARS)
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:08
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spot on

I have followed the forecasts on the bbc website and they were pretty much spot on. The weather was forecast to move in from the southwest around midnight or so and then meet me going opposite way down M5 at 04:00 for early at BRS. Thankfully found out that flight had been cancelled at 19:00 night before so someone paid attention!

With regard no snow ever again due global warming there is a hypothesis that predicts even more severe winters as the thermohaline (heat/salt) drift is broken by dilution of the northern ocean from melting ice and we get reduced benefit from the gulf stream.
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:11
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"Ever since a certain weatherman basically shot down in flames a viewers letter that hurricane force winds were on the way to batter the UK, and got it drastically wrong. "

That was a phonecall and the statment on TV was actually a dig at another forecaster who rang up the BBC weather unit to advise that he could see something pretty special forming offshore and heading our way.
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:11
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BHX now SNOCLO, among others I believe!!
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:16
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Steady stream of landing aircraft overhead for 09L LHR
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:17
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Lyka - LTN is closed at the moment "for snow clearance and deicing" so that might have something to do with it.
I don't operate out of LTN anymore, but I'm under the impression that they've got no snow-clearing equipment there at all and so basically close as soon as it starts snowing. Hope the not-so-frequent operators - all the bizjets etc - know that!
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 08:26
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Hi Tired

I was aware of this - STN is also SNOCLO but has the following METAR:

EGSS 080850Z 08014KT 1700 R05/1500 -SN FEW003 SCT004 BKN007 M00/M00 Q0985 055999//=

See where I am coming from?
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 09:30
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I was also interested in this:-
TAF: EGLL 080430Z 081212 ... TEMPO 0610 0200 FG FZFG BKN001
I wonder if we'll have a return to the December reason for chaos tomorrow?
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 09:53
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After being over in Aus for a few years I cant believe how 100mm of snow virtually brings everything to stop now , why? bad planning, Health and safety. once in a hundred year event excuse?
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 11:08
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Grrr Snow in Aus?

Pray what relevance does your "few years in Aus" have to your critique of the UK's response to the temporary snow problem?

Now if you had been in Austria, I could understand where your expertise with snow stemmed from!
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 12:25
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- LTN is closed at the moment "for snow clearance and deicing" so that might have something to do with it.
I don't operate out of LTN anymore, but I'm under the impression that they've got no snow-clearing equipment there at all and so basically close as soon as it starts snowing. Hope the not-so-frequent operators - all the bizjets etc - know that!
Wonder where they borrowed their extensive snow removal equipment from then that was going up and down the runway all morning. It's still snowing now but the airport is open
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 15:58
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RH it only has relevance re length of time away from UK
Prior to that as a sideline to my business here (UK) I provided snow clearance services when the season required it,

BTW Australia has larger snow fields for sking than Europe LNF
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 00:14
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Up to 4 inches in some areas, that must be truly terrifying,

or answer (b);

Thursday February 8, 2007 5:16 PM


AP Photo NYSYR101, NYSYR103, NYSYR102, KSPIT102

OSWEGO, N.Y. (AP) - While the northern Plains and Northeast shiver in dangerously cold temperatures, the folks in upstate New York are keeping warm shoveling snow - lots of snow.

Since Sunday, the small towns of Parish and Mexico have recorded more than 6 feet of snow, and forecasters with the National Weather Service say it isn't over yet.

Another 2 feet or more of heavy lake effect snow was expected Thursday for the communities along eastern Lake Ontario, and more squalls are likely through the weekend.

``We're just trying to keep up. It's almost an unreal amount,'' said Mayor Randy Bateman of Oswego, where 70 inches of snow had fallen by Thursday morning. ``We catch up when it stops, but then it just comes again, even heavier.''

Whiteout conditions - the snow has been falling at a rate of 5 inches an hour at times - forced state police to temporarily close Interstate 81 between Central Square and Pulaski, a stretch of about 15 miles. Travel advisories against unnecessary travel were posted for Oswego and its neighboring counties. Mexico officials renewed a snow emergency declaration, and many government offices were closed.

Schools were closed for a fourth day in Oswego and Mexico.

In West Virginia, where as much as 9 inches of snow has fallen, some schools that had been closed were able to reopen on Thursday, but in most of the state, classes were still delayed, and in a few counties, cancelled. Officials had to call snowplow drivers out of retirement Wednesday to clear the roads.

The weather also disrupted travelers, leaving some stranded overnight in airports in the Midwest after flights to the Northeast were disrupted.

Temperatures in the Northeast were inching back up to something closer to normal for this time of year, but the upper Midwest and northern Plains still awoke to subzero temperatures Thursday - minus-12 in Minneapolis and 3 below zero in Chicago.

The bitter cold and slippery roads have contributed to at least 19 deaths - five in Ohio, four in Illinois, four in Indiana, two in Kentucky, two in Michigan, and one each in Wisconsin and Maryland, authorities said. Three of those victims died Tuesday when two SUVs crashed on a slick road in northern Indiana.

In Oswego, a big concern was keeping the city's 800 fire hydrants clear, said Fire Chief Ed Geers.

``We're just trying to keep on top of digging out the hydrants. When you get 5 feet of snow in 24 hours, it's tough,'' Geers said
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