Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
Reload this Page >

Disinfecting of aircraft cabins flying to India

Wikiposts
Search
Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) If you are regularly a passenger on any airline then why not post your questions here?

Disinfecting of aircraft cabins flying to India

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 30th Aug 2006, 09:07
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: EGCC
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Disinfecting of aircraft cabins flying to India

Can anyone enlighten me as to why reputable international airlines flying to India succumb to what they describe as "Indian government regulations" and spray a disinfectant all over the cabin prior to landing at Indian airports?

Surely, given the dreadful standards of hygiene throughout most of India, it should be the other way round: countries should demand that planes originating from India be sprayed

Can it really be that the Indian government considers its country cleaner than the rest of the world?
Al Fakhem is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 09:21
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: UK
Age: 64
Posts: 3,586
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In certain cases, a nation will implement procedures that are purely retaliatory: These may include visa requirements, customs requirements, health requirements or or spraying. I don't know if this is the case with India (there may well be something important that I don't know about) but it is always a possibility.
TightSlot is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 09:39
  #3 (permalink)  
Too mean to buy a long personal title
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,968
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Is it a disinfectant? I thought that spraying was usually of an insecticide. However "clean" or "dirty" a country may be, it may well be a good idea to try to stop the long-distance importation of foreign insects.

India is far from the only country that does this. Australia is the one that I encounter most often.
Globaliser is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 09:57
  #4 (permalink)  

Lady Lexxington
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Manor House
Age: 43
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
IIRC Sri Lanka does this as you leave the country. I don't remember it being done on arrival.
lexxity is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 10:37
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: internet
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Globaliser
.... it may well be a good idea to try to stop the long-distance importation of foreign insects......
Are u referring to the passengers??
guest27 is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 11:14
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im almost sure you mean 'disinsecting' the cabin Al F. I fly to india often and the crew will make a PA to say that they will pass through the cabin and spray insecticide.
its not just in india its done, its also done in africa among other countries,one of the reasons for this is of course malaria and not wanting to carry the infected mossies back to the uk. You will also find this is sprayed on leaving these countrys, but each country has its own regs.
Correct me if im wrong but i've never heard of spraying disinfectant around the aircraft.

Last edited by sukigirl; 30th Aug 2006 at 11:37.
sukigirl is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 12:15
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Never been to NZ then I am guessing? Happens all the time. A MAF bod will wander down the aisle spraying an aerosol can. The idea (for the kiwis at least) is to try and stop any nasty exotic bug getting loose and wiping out the agriculture industry.
potkettleblack is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 12:25
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the spray is great to ... ahem... suffocate the smell of certain customers who have taken their shoes off so it should be used on all flights with an offensive smell!!!
apaddyinuk is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 12:31
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wellington,NZ
Age: 66
Posts: 1,678
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
potkettleblack

This quaint Kiwi practice died out maybe 20 years ago. Rumour has it that it was due to complaints from tourists arriving from a certain North Pacific country- they said they felt insulted by this treatment. Sad. Don't know how many millions of dollars have been spent since then in futile attempts to exterminate many introduced pests.This has included aerial spraying over built up areas, with many adverse reactions reported by the people sprayed. (The moth seems to be doing fine.) Although, to be fair, some of the pests would have arrived in shipping containers.
Tarq57 is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 14:12
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I recall this practice on my first trip to Australia back in 1986, but on my most recent journey I don't recall it happening, nor on either of my entries into New Zealand (one from Australia, one from the US).

I do believe that there may be some legitimate concerns warranting the use of insecticides in some countries. I also think it could be an effective retaliatory tool, when one country imposes silly requirements on another.
Middle Seat is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 15:04
  #11 (permalink)  

Aisle seat, please.
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: here and there (mostly there)
Age: 65
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They spray insecticide when leaving most countries in West and Central Africa. A good thing too. The thought of being trapped in a metal tube for eight hours with a bunch of hungry mosquitos is dreadful. Not to mention re-introducing the anopheles mossie to Europe.
Gouabafla is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2006, 15:38
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: here there and everywhere
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Globaliser
Is it a disinfectant? I thought that spraying was usually of an insecticide. However "clean" or "dirty" a country may be, it may well be a good idea to try to stop the long-distance importation of foreign insects.
India is far from the only country that does this. Australia is the one that I encounter most often.
Correct! Australia, Sri Lanka, Maldives, America, and even Mauritius used to (do not know now) and so on...

AlFakhem I am not aware of a disinfectant being sprayed in the cabin, it is usually a spray that kills mosquitoes and other insects....

There's a huge difference between disinfection and disinsection, I think you might have got a little confused there....

Here is a link for you with more information on the subject:

http://www.winterthurhealthforum.ch/...sinfection.pdf
(even whoever wrote this document got a little confused in the title it seems!)

and:

http://www.talkmedical.com/medical-d...1/Disinsection

FBW
flybywire is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2006, 08:53
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well it happened 3 years ago when I hopped off a SIA flight at AKL. I have no idea if it was a one off or not.

Here you go, the following FAQ implies that some deal was done with the airlines to ensure that the aircraft are sprayed before they arrive in NZ.

http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/perso...uestions#spray
potkettleblack is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2006, 10:41
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: here there and everywhere
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by potkettleblack
Well it happened 3 years ago when I hopped off a SIA flight at AKL. I have no idea if it was a one off or not.

Here you go, the following FAQ implies that some deal was done with the airlines to ensure that the aircraft are sprayed before they arrive in NZ.

http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/perso...uestions#spray
I do not think it's a one off, I think it's routine.

But what they sprayed is an insecticide, not a disinfectant
flybywire is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2006, 11:18
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As an aside I have always been amazed how different the approaches are across the world and how lax some seem to be. Come back to the UK and it appears open season. Compare that with the body scanners in Hong Kong which I presume are for SARS and spraying insecticide on arrival downunder and I am sure other measures elsewhere.
potkettleblack is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2006, 11:32
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Age: 63
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Came back in 1994 on Uzbekistan Airways from Tashkent. Landed at Heathrow and we were taken to a remote stand and Port Health came on. Apparently the plane had come from India prior to Tashkent and there was an outbreak of the plague at the time. We all had to fill in questionnaires and various foreign language speaking staff were there to speak to passengers.
Then along came this chap if what appeared to be a NBC suit and respirator and sprayed the whole cabin (and thus the passengers) with a vile smelling chemical. All the while he was saying '' Don't worry this won't affect humans''....
However he declined to take his suit and respirator off when challenged!!... I got rid of the clothing I was wearing as soon as I got to my hotel I can assure you.
Tolsti is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2006, 20:02
  #17 (permalink)  
Too mean to buy a long personal title
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,968
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by potkettleblack
As an aside I have always been amazed how different the approaches are across the world and how lax some seem to be.
I think that every country has to take a view about what they're at risk from, and what measures might be effective in the circumstances of that country.

An isolated country like Australia can defend against the risk of inadvertently imported insects as there are few other ways for insects to arrive in the country, and has a reason to do so because its biological isolation means that imported insects could be devastating to the current ecology.

These considerations don't apply with such force in a place where the majority of insect importation will come - unstoppable - over land borders, or where the local ecology is well used to dealing with and adapting to new arrivals because it has long had to do so.
Globaliser is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2006, 07:06
  #18 (permalink)  
Final 3 Greens
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Goubafla

Did you know that anopheles plumbeus is resident in Epping Forest?

Fortunately, not anopheles gambie.
 
Old 1st Sep 2006, 07:34
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Age: 63
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
IIRC some years ago the landlord of a pub in Horley (next to LGW) was found to be suffering from malaria. As he had not left the UK it was put down to a mozzie that had travelled in from abroad on the jacket of a flight crew member (BCAL?) several of which frequented his pub.
Tolsti is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2006, 09:19
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Age: 64
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The FAs sprayed insecticide down the aisles of the TG flight I took to London a few weeks back. Mind you, the Thais have a wonderful outlook on life; the spray stopped at the end of the J cabin. They must have assumed that no noxious bug would dare encroach on the F cabin!
Bangkokeasy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.