45x35x16 - What a ridiculous set of measurements!
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Has anyone traveled ex CWL recently? How are they handling the situation? (I.e., to the letter or with a little bit of flexibility?)
I figure that going out of a smaller regional airport may make it easier?
GDI
I figure that going out of a smaller regional airport may make it easier?
GDI
Airlines haven't been able to get a grip on cabin luggage (sorry, pun absolutely unintentional) for years and they're rather happy that someone else has disappeared the "creepage" problem for it.
Which is why they're keeping a v. low profile on it.
Let's face it - the situation was utterly out of control. No-one along the process chain wanted to get into the customer's face - Check-in doesn't want discussions (even if they see the passenger), security (had) - with a few exceptions, such as SIN - no remit, boarding control is likely a handling agent and the crew gets to manage the chaos during boarding.
Which results in one finding no overhead locker space in shorthaul Biz (because the Eco pax who boarded first stuffed the bins en passant) or being among the last 10 to board and being told - this in the States - that I can't carry anything apart from a newspaper because rivets were popping out of the skin.
A sensible size would have been nice, but don't hold your collective breaths...
Which is why they're keeping a v. low profile on it.
Let's face it - the situation was utterly out of control. No-one along the process chain wanted to get into the customer's face - Check-in doesn't want discussions (even if they see the passenger), security (had) - with a few exceptions, such as SIN - no remit, boarding control is likely a handling agent and the crew gets to manage the chaos during boarding.
Which results in one finding no overhead locker space in shorthaul Biz (because the Eco pax who boarded first stuffed the bins en passant) or being among the last 10 to board and being told - this in the States - that I can't carry anything apart from a newspaper because rivets were popping out of the skin.
A sensible size would have been nice, but don't hold your collective breaths...
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Originally Posted by Sobelena
45x36 is pretty much standard with most Samsonites. The question is: will the security jobsworth tolerate the extra 1cm? Do you dare risk it? I've purchased a Carlton model 42x34x15 just to be on the safe side.
My soft and squidgy laptop bag, only half full, could however easily be "pursuaded" to fit (42x35X19 squashed down to 42x35x16) so I was allowed to take it through.
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Originally Posted by weselfluren
I could pop into Boots Globaliser...... but problem is we're flying the nice US route
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Last three times I flew to Oz, Quantas (2000) and Malaysian (2003&4), there were no "comfort packs" - didn't notice any being offered on KLM flight to JFK in January eiher.
Size issue still seems a bit OTT IMHO - but although I'm not an expert on x-ray machines or scanning devices, I do know that you'd need a nice sheet of lead in your case to stop the x-ray passing through and giving a reading.
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Last three times I flew to Oz, Quantas (2000) and Malaysian (2003&4), there were no "comfort packs" - didn't notice any being offered on KLM flight to JFK in January eiher.
Size issue still seems a bit OTT IMHO - but although I'm not an expert on x-ray machines or scanning devices, I do know that you'd need a nice sheet of lead in your case to stop the x-ray passing through and giving a reading.
You should have had an amenity pack on Qantas. I can't remember what was in them back then, but they were definitely there.
As for the scanning, it's always instructive to look at the screens, if you can. You can now see what a thin bag looks like, and then you can just imagine how much worse it is when you've got a thick bag to look through. I sometimes have to put quite big bags through the X-ray scanner in one of the buildings where I work, and watching the screen when they come through is interesting.
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Looking at a number of bags I've measured up a size of 45 x 35 x20 would probably have caused far less hassle for everyone. It still keeps the huge rucksacks and rollaboards under control but allows for at least a reasonable chance for a camera bag
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Oh dear, flybhx, I'm afraid that you are making the usual mistake of thinking sensibly and logically.
Now go to the back of the queue and check in your head at the Quick Brain Drop and I don't want to see any more of your intelligent suggestions in a British airport.
Now go to the back of the queue and check in your head at the Quick Brain Drop and I don't want to see any more of your intelligent suggestions in a British airport.
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Here's a question for you gurus.
I suffer from sleep aponea; I have an airpump and mask that I must wear whilst sleeping.
When I have previously flown, prior to the current restrictions, I have been allowed this piece of medical equipment as additional carry-on baggage. I would never check it a hold baggage as it is too fragile and I would be stuffed if it were damaged or missing on arrival.
In its carry case, it is too big to fit into the new size restrictions - so the option of only taking the pump etc. as the only piece of hand baggage would seem a non- starter.
So can I still fly, or do I start planning UK/Europe only for holidays. My boss will not be amused if I can no longer fly to NI on business, but have to take the car ferry...
I suffer from sleep aponea; I have an airpump and mask that I must wear whilst sleeping.
When I have previously flown, prior to the current restrictions, I have been allowed this piece of medical equipment as additional carry-on baggage. I would never check it a hold baggage as it is too fragile and I would be stuffed if it were damaged or missing on arrival.
In its carry case, it is too big to fit into the new size restrictions - so the option of only taking the pump etc. as the only piece of hand baggage would seem a non- starter.
So can I still fly, or do I start planning UK/Europe only for holidays. My boss will not be amused if I can no longer fly to NI on business, but have to take the car ferry...
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patdavies Do you normally have to pre-notify the carrier of the CPAP machine, or are these now well enough known that you can just turn up with it?
Either way, write to the carrier (a thankless and pointless task I know) and also the Department for Transport. You will find an email address for them in one of the main threads in this (SLF) forum, or a generous pax will re-post that info here.
Either way, write to the carrier (a thankless and pointless task I know) and also the Department for Transport. You will find an email address for them in one of the main threads in this (SLF) forum, or a generous pax will re-post that info here.
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Pat,
A similar question was raised on a different forum during the total ban on hand luggage. The passenger (they were travelling long haul and required the CPAP on-board) called the airline (BA) and received a letter authorising the carriage of medical equipment required for the flight.
I do not know the details of your journey (whether you require it during the flight or do not wish to risk damage in the hold) but suspect that a similar approach would be beneficial (unless you are flying RyanAir ).
Cheers,
Jet.
A similar question was raised on a different forum during the total ban on hand luggage. The passenger (they were travelling long haul and required the CPAP on-board) called the airline (BA) and received a letter authorising the carriage of medical equipment required for the flight.
I do not know the details of your journey (whether you require it during the flight or do not wish to risk damage in the hold) but suspect that a similar approach would be beneficial (unless you are flying RyanAir
).Cheers,
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Size of Hand Luggage and Route Flown
How is the size of carry on luggage imagined to be a factor in a real or imagined terrorist threat? If BAA say that it IS relevant then why is the 'old' size carry on stuff being permitted on what is supposed to be the most threatened route = UK to USA? Aplogies if this has been asked and/or replied to elsewhere.
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Now, Now A2QFI, I have already had to warn flybhx for trying to think logically and this begins to look dangerously like you have caught this infection too. 
Earlier in this thread (or another like it) the view was put that BAA wanted thinner baggage, so that the screening was quicker. This due to the screener being able to see into the bags more easily and thus fewer ones being opened.
As to the thicker bags being carried on flights into the UK and UK~USA flights? I refer the honourable reader to my earlier reply.
How is the size of carry on luggage imagined to be a factor in a real or imagined terrorist threat?
As to the thicker bags being carried on flights into the UK and UK~USA flights? I refer the honourable reader to my earlier reply.
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It isn't. UK -> US flights are subject to the same size restriction as anywhere else. The restrictions on what you can carry are more stringent than for flights to anywhere else (ie you cannot carry on liquids etc bought airside), plus there are extra gate security checks to trap this.
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Globaliser - my apologies. I now see that hand luggage size is unrestricted TO UK from USA but that all flights ex-UK are subject to the new and ill-thought thru size limits!
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No worries!
The sizing difference is irritating. I'm very much hoping that the UK can reinstate the old "standard" size for ex-UK flights, as the difference between the old and new sizes pretty much makes all the difference between being able to pack cabin baggage only for a weekend away, and not.
The sizing difference is irritating. I'm very much hoping that the UK can reinstate the old "standard" size for ex-UK flights, as the difference between the old and new sizes pretty much makes all the difference between being able to pack cabin baggage only for a weekend away, and not.
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In any case, your argument merely backs up the point. Instead of investing in more resources to ensure throughput is maintained, the easier (read cheaper) option of making things less convenient for passengers has been chosen. I appreciate extra resources cannot just be turned on like a tap, but years of under-investment in equipement and resources are now being laid bare.
Andy
years of under-investment in equipement and resources are now being laid bare.
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I'm travelling LHR-DME shortly. I'm a keen amateur photographer for whom, to be honest, a major purpose of leisure travel anywhere out of the UK is photography. The current restrictions are giving me serious problems, as I'm sure most here appreciate.
I gather from this thread that all bags are being size checked, and if you're 1 cm over, back you go. However can someone enlighten me as to whether there are still trays for wallets, keys, loose change etc?
The guidance says nothing may be carried in pockets, and only one bag is allowed. But does this mean literally everything must be in the bag when you arrive at security?
I'm not trying to carry a load of lenses through in my pockets
: I'm talking about wallet, keys, passport, travel docs, mobile phone etc. Normal, sensible, pocket contents. These regs are so stupidly tight that leaving space for those is actually significant, and so would need to be planned for.
I gather from this thread that all bags are being size checked, and if you're 1 cm over, back you go. However can someone enlighten me as to whether there are still trays for wallets, keys, loose change etc?
The guidance says nothing may be carried in pockets, and only one bag is allowed. But does this mean literally everything must be in the bag when you arrive at security?
I'm not trying to carry a load of lenses through in my pockets
: I'm talking about wallet, keys, passport, travel docs, mobile phone etc. Normal, sensible, pocket contents. These regs are so stupidly tight that leaving space for those is actually significant, and so would need to be planned for.
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Despairing,
A week ago last Friday (August 18), my bag was too fat because things had slid down inside - this was 'London's Hell', otherwise LHR T4. I was told to carry my calculator and wallet, to let it flatten. No problems. Similarly at LHR T1 on the 28th. You can throw your keys, change etc in the tray - or at least, they let me.
Not trusting airlines to deliver baggage, that bag (I travel a lot) has a spare shirt, socks, underwear and a razor. I'd forgotten there was toothpaste and a aerosol shaving cream in there, too. LHR T4 didn't find it. PHX security didn't find it on August 20. San Diego did, on August 26.
The somewhat amusing one was when I said I had a torch in the bag. Almost had the FBI called for on the spot! Eventually I realised why they had a problem and explained that in English 'torch' means 'flashlight'.
The joys of a common language.......
And Avman, I think the UK has already become a thrid world country, with third world bureaucracy. The only thing not obviously present is third world corruption.
A week ago last Friday (August 18), my bag was too fat because things had slid down inside - this was 'London's Hell', otherwise LHR T4. I was told to carry my calculator and wallet, to let it flatten. No problems. Similarly at LHR T1 on the 28th. You can throw your keys, change etc in the tray - or at least, they let me.
Not trusting airlines to deliver baggage, that bag (I travel a lot) has a spare shirt, socks, underwear and a razor. I'd forgotten there was toothpaste and a aerosol shaving cream in there, too. LHR T4 didn't find it. PHX security didn't find it on August 20. San Diego did, on August 26.
The somewhat amusing one was when I said I had a torch in the bag. Almost had the FBI called for on the spot! Eventually I realised why they had a problem and explained that in English 'torch' means 'flashlight'.
The joys of a common language.......
And Avman, I think the UK has already become a thrid world country, with third world bureaucracy. The only thing not obviously present is third world corruption.