Profiling - Straw Poll
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Like the majority here, I'm in favour of any sort of profiling. The people who try to stop terrorists need all the weapons than can get, and help/support from all of us that aren't terrorists!
My passport is full of stamps from Mid-East countries, I have a fairly dark complexion (sun-tan)and "beard & 'tache" (not shaggy!). As result I have for some years been that "random pax" who gets the extra secirity check when boarding USA flights. No "infringement of my freedoms", just common sense - I could well have been "brainwashed" after 20 years in the Mid-East. (I haven't though
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What's a 5-minute extra hold-up at check-in, against the safety of an aircraft full of pax?
My passport is full of stamps from Mid-East countries, I have a fairly dark complexion (sun-tan)and "beard & 'tache" (not shaggy!). As result I have for some years been that "random pax" who gets the extra secirity check when boarding USA flights. No "infringement of my freedoms", just common sense - I could well have been "brainwashed" after 20 years in the Mid-East. (I haven't though
)What's a 5-minute extra hold-up at check-in, against the safety of an aircraft full of pax?
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We are talking about profiling in general and, sticking just to terrorists, most of the IRA were indeed catholic, most of the Bader Mainhof Gang were of German extraction, most of Eta originated from regions sympathetic to their cause and the same for FARC (though FARC being different to the others mentioned)
You can't tell me the British didn't use ethnic and religious profiling when dealing with the various terrorist groups in NI. It's often unsaid but the actions of the Brits in NI in the 1990's put an end to the operations of various groups, forcing the hardliners into splinter groups by creating a climate which forced the IRA to cease their operations.
Such profiling already exists unofficially and it would seem a folly not to extend it given the present climate, in Britain, bearing in mind the roots of the those, allegedly, involved in certain terrorist actions.
For example - recent bombers (and nutters who might pose a similar risk) who are neither Muslim nor Arabic/South Asian:
Timothy McVeigh
IRA
UniBomber
The Washington Sniper
Bader Mainhof Gang
November 17 (Greeks who killed our military liaison a few years ago)
ETA
FARC
Looking at the link at http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/45394.htm, there are a proliferation of national liberation groups who might pose a threat as well, some of whom are white and Christian.
So therefore, I would rather we were all treated as a threat, than some of my good friends being singled out for race and religion alone, while I might be the one in the terror group.
Timothy McVeigh
IRA
UniBomber
The Washington Sniper
Bader Mainhof Gang
November 17 (Greeks who killed our military liaison a few years ago)
ETA
FARC
Looking at the link at http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/45394.htm, there are a proliferation of national liberation groups who might pose a threat as well, some of whom are white and Christian.
So therefore, I would rather we were all treated as a threat, than some of my good friends being singled out for race and religion alone, while I might be the one in the terror group.
You can't tell me the British didn't use ethnic and religious profiling when dealing with the various terrorist groups in NI. It's often unsaid but the actions of the Brits in NI in the 1990's put an end to the operations of various groups, forcing the hardliners into splinter groups by creating a climate which forced the IRA to cease their operations.
Such profiling already exists unofficially and it would seem a folly not to extend it given the present climate, in Britain, bearing in mind the roots of the those, allegedly, involved in certain terrorist actions.
