travelling from London to Melbourne with a baby - which airline is best?
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Emily
I have flown all over the world with my girls. When they were little we found any Middle eastern/Far Eastern carrier was great. They love kids and we found all the on board staff to be superb.
BA/Quantas etc were good as well but all staff had the natural inbuilt dread of noisy kids.
Singapore Airlines is one of my favourites, delightful CC so you should have a pleasant trip, little one permitting!! Also, Changai is the best airport in the world (IMHO of course).
Good luck
I have flown all over the world with my girls. When they were little we found any Middle eastern/Far Eastern carrier was great. They love kids and we found all the on board staff to be superb.
BA/Quantas etc were good as well but all staff had the natural inbuilt dread of noisy kids.
Singapore Airlines is one of my favourites, delightful CC so you should have a pleasant trip, little one permitting!! Also, Changai is the best airport in the world (IMHO of course).
Good luck
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Angels my dear,
since when are posting on pprune and having a slight incling of how the world works got anything to do with one another?
According to yourself with over 2000 posts you obviously know abs everything about the world. I am so humbled.
Over 2000 posts, hmm, don't get out much do you?
Never mind. I still stand by my statement, and who said anything about downing planes???????
since when are posting on pprune and having a slight incling of how the world works got anything to do with one another?
According to yourself with over 2000 posts you obviously know abs everything about the world. I am so humbled.
Over 2000 posts, hmm, don't get out much do you?
Never mind. I still stand by my statement, and who said anything about downing planes???????
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lemmiwink my dear.
Got the GCSE results yet? I bet you passed English grammar!!
I've never met him, but I can assure you that Jordan does have an inkling as to how the world works and your attack on him was not justified.
Over and out! (Yes I do get out.)
Got the GCSE results yet? I bet you passed English grammar!!
I've never met him, but I can assure you that Jordan does have an inkling as to how the world works and your attack on him was not justified.
Over and out! (Yes I do get out.)
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Angels, my dear
you must have run out of points to raise as you are picking on my grammar. I rest my case.
Why don't you go away, pass all the UK CAA ATPL exams in a to yourself foreign language, and then I let you take part again in the discussions, ehh?
you must have run out of points to raise as you are picking on my grammar. I rest my case.
Why don't you go away, pass all the UK CAA ATPL exams in a to yourself foreign language, and then I let you take part again in the discussions, ehh?
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Is there really need for pettyness like this? angels was supporting a point I made, to which you have given no answer, nor the original poster.
You have then degenerated into petty name calling. Please do stop.
Jordan
You have then degenerated into petty name calling. Please do stop.
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Originally Posted by lemmiwink
Why don't you go away, pass all the UK CAA ATPL exams in a to yourself foreign language, and then I let you take part again in the discussions, ehh?
BTW, your English grammar really is quite poor mate. Sorry, that I too have to point it out to you, but I would really consider a good book on language & grammar before posting again.
Many thanks
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hpcock - the exams were CAA when I completed them. You are quite right that they are now JAA. My English grammar can and does slip occasionally however, how good is your German, French or Italian etc ? Give me a little bit of slack in the same way that you did for "Quantas".
Angels old chap - I have passed exams in grammar including English as a foreign language. How did you pass your RT practical with "over and out"
You are a pilot are you not ???????
Getting back to the point, in the last few years nobody has downed an airline of middle eastern origin. If Emily is worried and looking for advice, I would seriously consider using the state airline of a Muslim country...... preferably one with a western slant such as Singapore.
in the same way that you did for "Quantas".Angels old chap - I have passed exams in grammar including English as a foreign language. How did you pass your RT practical with "over and out"
You are a pilot are you not ??????? Getting back to the point, in the last few years nobody has downed an airline of middle eastern origin. If Emily is worried and looking for advice, I would seriously consider using the state airline of a Muslim country...... preferably one with a western slant such as Singapore.
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Dear Lemmiwink
I suggest you choose your words carefully & may I also suggest that you check your facts.
If you look at my previous post on this thread, you will no doubt notice that I have not mis-spealt Qantas, but infact used their 2 letter code.
As for how many languages I can speak - German (lived there for 3 yrs), Gujarati, Hindi, Russian, & English, a lot better than you (gramatically speaking of course!!)
I hope thats good enough
HPC
I suggest you choose your words carefully & may I also suggest that you check your facts.
If you look at my previous post on this thread, you will no doubt notice that I have not mis-spealt Qantas, but infact used their 2 letter code.
As for how many languages I can speak - German (lived there for 3 yrs), Gujarati, Hindi, Russian, & English, a lot better than you (gramatically speaking of course!!)
I hope thats good enough
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Originally Posted by hpcock
BA/QF carry the most kids to Aus, so crew are always stretched when it comes to babies.
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Awaiting your response.
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I think Lemmywink was drawing attention to you criticising his / her grammar while choosing not to refer to BellEnd Bob's spelling of Quantas. I suspect there may be some indignation about double standards.
Dragging this dreary thread back to the question. Air France should be a good bet, the Frogs haven't upset anyone East of Calais for a hundred years.
Dragging this dreary thread back to the question. Air France should be a good bet, the Frogs haven't upset anyone East of Calais for a hundred years.
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Try Malaysian
Given feedback from family I would recomend Malaysian and Kuala Lumpar airport. The journey is more evenly broken up and the facilities at KL are good.
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Second Amd post. Malaysian are good especially with kids. However I would say any of the Asian carriers MH,CX,SQ as there attitude towards kids is much beter. I am not trying to citicise western carriers, its just that the asian culture is very much more tolerant to kids..!!
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On topic.......
With 25 flights before our boy was 3, we found that the pleasantness of the journey was not so much the choice of carrier, but rather on the behaviour of the PAX sharing our journey that day.
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For all of you "debating" and I use that word loosely the issues of terrorism and airlines, a few points to consider on some of the issues that you have touched;
1. Its not racist to point out that the bad guys in the field of terrorism mainly come from the Middle East. This is the kind of warped PC thinking that does not see the irony in muslims rioting because the pope called their religion violent
2. Its a generally accepted feeling in the ME, that the UAE appears to have found some kind of accomodation with the "bad guys", whatever it is, that keeps their part of the world peaceful to date, while all around is falling apart.
3. I am not bothering to edit this casual text for spelling or grammar as I will not be submitting it to my tutor...so don't bother wasting your time looking for nits to pick.
4. And for those of you claiming to be polyglots, I bet you can barely manage to order a beer in the multitude of languages you claim to speak
5. In 25 years in a practical workplace, 10 military and 15 business, it is my empirical finding that most 20 year old students are hot on theory, but a little short on practice.
Thanks for reading this.....shall we keep it real going forward ??
1. Its not racist to point out that the bad guys in the field of terrorism mainly come from the Middle East. This is the kind of warped PC thinking that does not see the irony in muslims rioting because the pope called their religion violent
2. Its a generally accepted feeling in the ME, that the UAE appears to have found some kind of accomodation with the "bad guys", whatever it is, that keeps their part of the world peaceful to date, while all around is falling apart.
3. I am not bothering to edit this casual text for spelling or grammar as I will not be submitting it to my tutor...so don't bother wasting your time looking for nits to pick.
4. And for those of you claiming to be polyglots, I bet you can barely manage to order a beer in the multitude of languages you claim to speak
5. In 25 years in a practical workplace, 10 military and 15 business, it is my empirical finding that most 20 year old students are hot on theory, but a little short on practice.
Thanks for reading this.....shall we keep it real going forward ??
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rmac
I have found over the years, that being able to order beers in many languages is not a necessity - if you shout loud enough at 'Johnny Foreigner' beer will soon arrive! -hopefully in a glass!!
I have found over the years, that being able to order beers in many languages is not a necessity - if you shout loud enough at 'Johnny Foreigner' beer will soon arrive! -hopefully in a glass!!
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Thanks rmac for your comments. The difference here is, that this place exists as a society of mutual respect. You're last comment shows little respect. I won't be petty to show you little though.
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Jordan. Not an unexpected response. At the risk of being accused as sexist, are you female ? I hope so, because if you are to travel through the male world with that level of sensitivity, you are going to have a tough old time 
I was once a quite opinionated 20 year old junior officer, who thought that all senior officers were full of sh1t, and didn't have a clue. By the time I hit 30, evidence proved that I had been correct, but, here's the important bit, not for the reasons that I had originally thought !
Its unfortunate but true that in most cases, the older are looking back and drawing on experience, while the younger are looking forward and speculating based on their own "superior" intellect. Each side of the argument has its benefits, but normally experience wins out in the end as we live in a very grey world, where the socially imprinted maps of behaviour and morality become of less use the further in to the jungle we tread.
You seem like an essentially honourable and intelligent person Jordan, if you tone down the sensitivity and develop a feel for the grey areas, you'll probably do quite well.
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I was once a quite opinionated 20 year old junior officer, who thought that all senior officers were full of sh1t, and didn't have a clue. By the time I hit 30, evidence proved that I had been correct, but, here's the important bit, not for the reasons that I had originally thought !
Its unfortunate but true that in most cases, the older are looking back and drawing on experience, while the younger are looking forward and speculating based on their own "superior" intellect. Each side of the argument has its benefits, but normally experience wins out in the end as we live in a very grey world, where the socially imprinted maps of behaviour and morality become of less use the further in to the jungle we tread.
You seem like an essentially honourable and intelligent person Jordan, if you tone down the sensitivity and develop a feel for the grey areas, you'll probably do quite well.
rmac
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I agree with rmac's last comment - the ex-students I work with have a pot full of confidence and a pot empty on experience. The trick for us 'old hands' is to fill the latter pot, without shattering the former (and hurting their sensitivities-after all we were students once)!