BA new Club World Product.
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From the press section on the BA website:
Is it just me or does this sound a little odd? You, the passenger, think you are enjoying privacy in your seat as the screens are opaque so you can't see out, but in fact those in the aisle can see in.
Apparently this stuff (see details on Lumisty explanation site here) is transparent at some viewing angles and translucent (frosted) at others. Perhaps someone who goes to one of the "see the new Clyub World product" sessions can enlighten us on what it's actually like.
Changes include a new dividing screen made of an innovative material, Lumisty, which allows cabin crew standing in the aisle to see through it, enabling them to identify whether customers need anything. However, to those sat in the seat, the screen will appear opaque, providing them with privacy from the customer opposite.
Apparently this stuff (see details on Lumisty explanation site here) is transparent at some viewing angles and translucent (frosted) at others. Perhaps someone who goes to one of the "see the new Clyub World product" sessions can enlighten us on what it's actually like.
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The privacy screens raise and lower electronically.
The screens are opaque. When you are seated in the seat, it appears frosted and you cannot see the seat next to you.
This however posed difficulties for the crew when they needed to check seatbelts etc. So the opaque divider is actually clear/see thru when standing in the aisle. This way the crew do not need disturb passengers when the seat belt sign in switched on.
There is also a manual pull down divider incorporated between the middle two rearward facing seats. Previously there was no divider between the E & F seats.
Other features of the new seat include: it is now 25% wider (the armrest lower to the same position as the seat when in the bed poistion). In the 'Z' position the bed becomes 6'6". The IFE is now AVOD with a 10" screen (up from 8"). In seat power supply only now requires a regular uk/us adaptor. New bulkheads/fixtures/fitting. 'Club Kitchen' with a fixed self help bar and cold/hot snacks available to be cooked at any time.
The screens are opaque. When you are seated in the seat, it appears frosted and you cannot see the seat next to you.
This however posed difficulties for the crew when they needed to check seatbelts etc. So the opaque divider is actually clear/see thru when standing in the aisle. This way the crew do not need disturb passengers when the seat belt sign in switched on.
There is also a manual pull down divider incorporated between the middle two rearward facing seats. Previously there was no divider between the E & F seats.
Other features of the new seat include: it is now 25% wider (the armrest lower to the same position as the seat when in the bed poistion). In the 'Z' position the bed becomes 6'6". The IFE is now AVOD with a 10" screen (up from 8"). In seat power supply only now requires a regular uk/us adaptor. New bulkheads/fixtures/fitting. 'Club Kitchen' with a fixed self help bar and cold/hot snacks available to be cooked at any time.
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Does anyone have any photo's from the launch event that they can post?
Also what took place there, were there mockups etc?
If mockups existed, were they usable, and how did the seats/beds feel?
Any other info welcome
From the new BA website, I really like the look of the new cabin, the seat looks fantastic and I especially like the fact that it is now 6' 6" long - I find the existing one too short.
Looking forward to trying this out for real.
Also what took place there, were there mockups etc?
If mockups existed, were they usable, and how did the seats/beds feel?
Any other info welcome
From the new BA website, I really like the look of the new cabin, the seat looks fantastic and I especially like the fact that it is now 6' 6" long - I find the existing one too short.
Looking forward to trying this out for real.
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First Aircraft fitted
Video of first aircraft fitted with new cabin
http://www.heathrowtv.com/baclub.html
http://www.heathrowtv.com/baclub.html
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Purely tongue in cheek but
The video shows a lady talking to the man in the window seat and then shutting the privacy screen. I'm not sure what message BA is sending out there.........
The video shows a lady talking to the man in the window seat and then shutting the privacy screen. I'm not sure what message BA is sending out there.........
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I really hope they've sorted out some improved airflow with all those high partitions - the old layout was horribly stuffy and claustrophobic; at first sight this one looks even worse. There's a lot to be said for individual air vents within the personal space (as on the AA Flagship Suites).
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Hi,
This is one of the issues I have with BA Club World seating- no individual air vents ( VS Upper class has them and it is occasionally nice to get a blast of air in your face!!)
( Although I think the lack of air vents are on all BA longhaul a/c in all cabins)
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This is one of the issues I have with BA Club World seating- no individual air vents ( VS Upper class has them and it is occasionally nice to get a blast of air in your face!!)
( Although I think the lack of air vents are on all BA longhaul a/c in all cabins)
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I have to say, I was quite looking forward to this NGCW, even had an invite to the 'show', but couldn't go. But now having had time to digest the details, I'm not so sure. Taken in conjuunction with newly announced changes to check in procedures, even when flying club, and I'm starting to get hacked off with BA's "enhancements".
To be fair, the better food can only be a good thing, but I'm not so fussy, and didn't notice any major deficits, previously. The new entertainment will also be good, with on-demand video, which is great, having recently used it on a Virgin flight
The flat beds are still too short, 6 foot, despite the marketing (mis-leading) spin about 6'6" (just whilst in the 'z' position). As for those screens, they kind of remind me of the kind of fixtures found in old NHS (UK) hospitals, with that pale washed out colouration and opaque plastic.
I know it's kinf of off-topic, but I'm just hacked off with the London centric view taken by BA lately, and at present, I'm avoiding them. In my opinion, without regional connections, i might as well use BMI, or even Maxjet or Eos. I even flew with BMI recently, and what a refreshing pleasant experience. On my next few american trips I'm going back to Virgin (If only BMI would interline - I know they say they do on a single ticket, but reality is actually quite different).
It's pretty clear to me, that many of the perks currently available to BA frequent flyers will soon be a thing of the past. Clearly Willie Walsh is of the opinion that frequent flyers will stay loyal no matter what 'enhancements' he introduces, but I'm not one of them.
To be fair, the better food can only be a good thing, but I'm not so fussy, and didn't notice any major deficits, previously. The new entertainment will also be good, with on-demand video, which is great, having recently used it on a Virgin flight
The flat beds are still too short, 6 foot, despite the marketing (mis-leading) spin about 6'6" (just whilst in the 'z' position). As for those screens, they kind of remind me of the kind of fixtures found in old NHS (UK) hospitals, with that pale washed out colouration and opaque plastic.
I know it's kinf of off-topic, but I'm just hacked off with the London centric view taken by BA lately, and at present, I'm avoiding them. In my opinion, without regional connections, i might as well use BMI, or even Maxjet or Eos. I even flew with BMI recently, and what a refreshing pleasant experience. On my next few american trips I'm going back to Virgin (If only BMI would interline - I know they say they do on a single ticket, but reality is actually quite different).
It's pretty clear to me, that many of the perks currently available to BA frequent flyers will soon be a thing of the past. Clearly Willie Walsh is of the opinion that frequent flyers will stay loyal no matter what 'enhancements' he introduces, but I'm not one of them.
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Video of first aircraft fitted with new cabin
http://www.heathrowtv.com/baclub.html
http://www.heathrowtv.com/baclub.html
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Hahahahaha! Very funny 
She's actually a good 6-8 years oldear than me!!
Not that I am one but you'd be impressed by the number of boys/girls we have now who were born in 1987...
She's actually a good 6-8 years oldear than me!!Not that I am one but you'd be impressed by the number of boys/girls we have now who were born in 1987...
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Personally I prefer a nice Monarch 1981 vintage, though apparently as she's 25 next month she is officially "old"
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The aircraft currently configured seem to be operating mainly on the LA,MIA,HKG,NRT routes out of T1 but BA are not currently advertising it until they can get a number of aircraft configured and provide dedicated new club world routes! But dont worry, they say all the cabins will be configured by april 2008 which is a hell of a lot faster then the last embodyment programme!
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Thanks for that, I've got a Joburg trip early next month and Toronto end of March. Didnt expect the Toronto flight to change - it always seems to be one of the last, but thought there may be a chance on JNB.
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The T1 things a bit of a bad lead right now, believe its in T4 at the moment. Its actually on a DXB tonight and it has done GRU at least once. Its a 70 Club aircraft so it'll be on the high business routes. When there are enough i think theyll be advertised on the high J T1 flights. BA25/6 HKG BA268/9 LAX BA55/6 JNB and BA6/7 NRT.
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British Airways will upgrade to Rockwell Collins' TES (total entertainment system) on its 57 B-747s, 25 B-777s and 14 B-767s with AVOD (audio/video on demand), daily digital news and audio jukebox capabilities.
The upgrade, which should be completed by December 2007.
The upgrade, which should be completed by December 2007.