Air route maps

[G-BBAE]

Can anyone give a link to a website with transatlantic route maps, if im flying MAN-JFK will i fly over Greenland and Canada.

[Bumz_Rush]

good site

go on to www.landings.com and look for the Great Circle prog, or look for the Flight Planning program. specify show route, and the airport icao codes.....but to answer your question just south of greeland usually....Bumz

Just ran route, and it is about 300mn south of Greenland by Great Circle....

But this is the full link...EGCC and KJFK being the required inputs...

http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$pass*70210478!_h-www.landings.com/_landings/pages/search/search_dist_apt.html

[Globaliser]

G-BBAE: Can anyone give a link to a website with transatlantic route maps, if im flying MAN-JFK will i fly over Greenland and Canada.

You can get an idea of where you might fly, but you won't know the route until the day. Across the Atlantic, the position of the North Atlantic Tracks that most flights use is something that changes on a daily basis, depending on winds and weather. Some days you'll be a long way north, other days a long way south. It's pretty unpredictable.

[slim_slag]

There are some superb charts to be found somewhere on the Internet that were put together by a Lufthansa captain. They show you the routes taken to get to/from the oceanic entry points when crossing the Atlantic (and all sorts of other long-haul routes)

Just realised they are not in my favourites on this laptop, and a cursory google search cannot find them, so I'd be as interested as you if one of the good people on this site can point to them. If you fly United and they keep channel 9 on you will hear enough to work out where you enter the track system, and if you use the in flight air map you can make sense of things too.

[Globaliser]

slim_slag: There are some superb charts to be found somewhere on the Internet that were put together by a Lufthansa captain. They show you the routes taken to get to/from the oceanic entry points when crossing the Atlantic (and all sorts of other long-haul routes)

Are you thinking of Gerd Puppel's site?

[slim_slag]

Globaliser,

That's the one, thanks very much. Seems like his web site address is about to change to www.planningchart.de

[Globaliser]

Many thanks for that - duly put into Favorites!

[spoilers yellow]

Your routing over the atlantic is along pre determined NAT (north atlantic tracks) tracks.
The west bound tracks are determined in the early mornings by people in the uk, and the east bound tracks in the evening by the canadians. they are set up to make best use of avilable tailwinds and to avoid areas of known turbulence etc.
The usual MAN-JFK routing will be out over liverpool and Ireland and then, depending on the given track for the day either fairly northerly ( up towards greenland) or straight across the middle.
You will then end up somewhere close to Gander, Halifax in Newfoundland, turn left abit and follow the canadian coast towards the US eastern seaboard and then its pretty bmuch straight down towards New york.
The arrival into NY, obviously depends on the runway for landing, but NY ATC are fairly noise sensitive, so many of the final approaches start over the water and involve visual manouvering to a short fainal approach.

[G-BBAE]

Well looking at weather looks like a 24 departure as there is south west winds, also will take off be powerfull?

[Globaliser]

G-BBAE: also will take off be powerfull?

Yes, or no. Or both at the same time. "Powerful" really depends on what you're comparing it to - it's a pretty meaningless adjective when used on its own in relation to an airliner's takeoff.

[spoilers yellow]

The take off weight going MAN-JFK will be somewhere in the region of 160 Tonnes, and although many factors ( headwind, wet runway, temperature etc) will vary the thrust setting for take off, you will find that a high percentage of full power will be used for take off, however due to the heavy weight of the aircraft it will not feel hugely powerful compared to say a half empty 757 doing the LHR shuttle.

[sixmilehighclub]

Once onboard (if flying BA and subject to aircraft type) you should have a moving map which shows the route step by step as you go, and your progress. It also gives speed, height, temperature, etc....