Which Airline is best for a trip to Australia?
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I use Qantas or BA. Usually the cheapest or one of the cheapest from London to Sydney. Have to search around a bit though and be flexible with the times. I prefer a SIN stop point. Terminal's nicer. Usually only on the ground for about 2 hours.
As for the flight? I just take a few good books, the minidisc, ear plugs and some water. It's a long way in cattle class and I can't afford any thing better (yet).
I know I'll get there. I know they won't go broke tomorrow. I know I can get an alcoholic drink on board too.
Jerricho does have a point though.
As for the flight? I just take a few good books, the minidisc, ear plugs and some water. It's a long way in cattle class and I can't afford any thing better (yet).
I know I'll get there. I know they won't go broke tomorrow. I know I can get an alcoholic drink on board too.
Jerricho does have a point though.
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I agree with redsnail, although I think you can get cheaper - I've heard JAL have some cheap fares and they still have smoking flights (which may be a + or a - for you).
The other decision factor is how much of a hurry you're in. If you're planning a lengthy stay, you can take a break in (e.g.) Thailand (Singapore's good for 2/3 days - after that you've seen it!). You could even get a round-the-world ticket. IMHO you can't do justice to Australia with a stay of less than a month (preferably two), although that's obviously difficult if you're in full-time employment.
On the other hand, if you're in a hurry and want to go direct, I'd recommend flying to Perth as your first stop. It's 'only' 18 hours flight time and the time zone differential (currently +8 hrs) is 3 hrs less than Sydney.
The other decision factor is how much of a hurry you're in. If you're planning a lengthy stay, you can take a break in (e.g.) Thailand (Singapore's good for 2/3 days - after that you've seen it!). You could even get a round-the-world ticket. IMHO you can't do justice to Australia with a stay of less than a month (preferably two), although that's obviously difficult if you're in full-time employment.
On the other hand, if you're in a hurry and want to go direct, I'd recommend flying to Perth as your first stop. It's 'only' 18 hours flight time and the time zone differential (currently +8 hrs) is 3 hrs less than Sydney.
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I agree with Reddo, QF / BA. If you are not actually in London may I suggest flying Manchester - Frankfurt - Singapore. It's a much less stressful route and you don't have to fight your way across to Terminal 4 at Heathrow. The price is exactly the same too.
Whatever you do, try to avoid the Manchester, Charles de Gaulle, Singapore route - CDG is a filthy hole (dirty seats, chewing gum all over them and the torn lino floor) - or at least it was on the one occasion I was unfortunate to have to use it.
You will find cheaper flights but ask yourself if it is going to be worth it if you are delayed. Both BA and QF look after their passengers well and do their best to provide accommodation / refreshments as necessary.
Ring QF or BA direct and ask for their latest cheap offers, you might well be surprised but don't expect to be able to fly cheaply over the Christmas / New Year or school holiday periods.
Whatever you do, try to avoid the Manchester, Charles de Gaulle, Singapore route - CDG is a filthy hole (dirty seats, chewing gum all over them and the torn lino floor) - or at least it was on the one occasion I was unfortunate to have to use it.
You will find cheaper flights but ask yourself if it is going to be worth it if you are delayed. Both BA and QF look after their passengers well and do their best to provide accommodation / refreshments as necessary.
Ring QF or BA direct and ask for their latest cheap offers, you might well be surprised but don't expect to be able to fly cheaply over the Christmas / New Year or school holiday periods.
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I'm guessing that anyone who suggests flying long-haul in BA economy are relatively small people. Their seating pitch with the seat infront of you reclined is extremely poor. I use a simple laptop test, if i can open and use my laptop, I'm happy, if not, i dont have enough room.
Try Emirates or Singapore.
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Try Emirates or Singapore.
Mutt.
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And fly into one of the other cities other then Sydney. They all have international airports (Queensland has more then most with 3!) and are they are usually less busy and you will be out of the terminal much faster. Flying into Brisbane 2 years ago I took 20 mins from getting off the aircraft to meeting the family after customs! Admittidly a Aussie passport helps!
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Sorry dude, as I said, not really trying to be a smart @ss
I have tried quite a few of them. Malaysian were very very good, room was fine (I'm 6' 1"), the service was great.
I've done the JAL flight a couple of times (it was the cheapest!). The flight is kinda packed in and squashed (If you can get top deck economy, you're away from the smoking bit and have a little more room). If you do the overnight stop on Narita on the way from Aus it does break it up (I was a couple of years ago, but it was an overnight at a JAL hotel with dinner and breakfast).
QANTAS/BA has been a mixed bag. Please don't yell at me, but it has been dependant upon the crew. One flight the toilets were in a disgusting state, rubbish all over the cabin and the attitude wasn't the best. But then again on another flight, sitting on the ground in Sydney and having a chat with the cabin crew, I made a joke that if I had been working, we wouldn't have to hold into LHR, and was taken up to Club, so you can't grumble!
Virgin was great (although, it was only as far a Hong Kong. Ansett were flying then).
I have tried quite a few of them. Malaysian were very very good, room was fine (I'm 6' 1"), the service was great.
I've done the JAL flight a couple of times (it was the cheapest!). The flight is kinda packed in and squashed (If you can get top deck economy, you're away from the smoking bit and have a little more room). If you do the overnight stop on Narita on the way from Aus it does break it up (I was a couple of years ago, but it was an overnight at a JAL hotel with dinner and breakfast).
QANTAS/BA has been a mixed bag. Please don't yell at me, but it has been dependant upon the crew. One flight the toilets were in a disgusting state, rubbish all over the cabin and the attitude wasn't the best. But then again on another flight, sitting on the ground in Sydney and having a chat with the cabin crew, I made a joke that if I had been working, we wouldn't have to hold into LHR, and was taken up to Club, so you can't grumble!
Virgin was great (although, it was only as far a Hong Kong. Ansett were flying then).
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One more thought - flying BA/QF gives you access to cheaper internal QF flights, which can be expensive. I don't know if Virgin Blue have a similar deal (with Singapore??).
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I have flown to Australia a few times, once on QF and 3times on BA, my last flight was with SQ, I got a good deal and I can only say from experience that they were by far, the best airline.
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Have a look at Cathay through Hong Kong as well - they have some pretty good offers from time to time.
(And HKG has one of the best lounges in the world if you are flying up front or have the OneWorld status to get in.)
(And HKG has one of the best lounges in the world if you are flying up front or have the OneWorld status to get in.)
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European airlines are a bargain to sydney £499 return! (£399 if today)
Beat that.
Only trouble is its a 747-200 A/C
First departure was November 14th
Last departure is Jan 16th
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oh and she holds 440 pax in total!
Beat that.
Only trouble is its a 747-200 A/C
First departure was November 14th
Last departure is Jan 16th
Via Colombo
oh and she holds 440 pax in total!
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Best Airline
I would recomend Singapore Airlines join the frequent flyer programme and you can chose your seat online out of the ones available also check in online so you only need to be at the airport 45 minutes before departure . The service is exellent and the fleet is modern the service from Manchester is direct to Singapore on a 777 with on demand entertainment so you can start the movies when you want.
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IMHO you cannot go past SQ, I have been making the trip approx 8 times a year for the past 13 and since trying SQ a couple of years ago, I wouldn't use anyone else. Quality of BA/QF service had declined significantly IMHO towards end of the 90's hence the reason I tried SQ. Would recommend them to anyone.
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Check out the following link...
http://www.aviation-health.org/seatpitch.asp
It clearly shows that both BA and Quantas are well down on legroom, compared with Emirates, Singapore and best of all, Malaysian.
That extra 3" makes all the difference!!
http://www.aviation-health.org/seatpitch.asp
It clearly shows that both BA and Quantas are well down on legroom, compared with Emirates, Singapore and best of all, Malaysian.
That extra 3" makes all the difference!!