UAL Passengers Duct - Tape Troublesome Traveler
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Passengers duct-tape troublesome passenger on Hawaii-to-LA flight
Sunday, September 14, 2003
(09-14) 06:36 PDT LOS ANGELES (AP) --
A man who disrupted a United Airlines flight from Honolulu was subdued by passengers and airline officials who duct-taped him, then handed him over to authorities when the plane landed Sunday at Los Angeles International Airport, police said.
No one was reported injured during the altercation, said Sgt. Carl Sansbury of the airport police.
"The FBI is conducting an investigation," Sansbury said, adding he didn't know what prompted the outburst. He said police were called to the United gate about 4:45 a.m. and took the man into custody, then handed him over to the FBI.
The man, whose name was not immediately released, could face a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew, Sansbury said.
"The aircraft landed at the gate without incident," he said.
One of the plane's passengers, Joseph Gugerty, said the man got out of his seat and began talking and wandering the aisle about 90 minutes after United Flight 54 left Honolulu for Los Angeles.
"He was pacing and reading the Bible," said Gugerty who was returning to Kentucky, where he is chief of communications in The Associated Press' Louisville bureau.
"They basically put him down and duct-taped him and the police took him off when the plane landed," Gugerty said. He added that about a half-dozen passengers helped an air marshal subdue the man.
"They let him wander back and forth in the plane until he started to move forward," Gugerty said. "Then they surrounded him and pushed him to the floor. I don't know where they got the duct tape from."
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Passengers duct-tape troublesome passenger on Hawaii-to-LA flight
Sunday, September 14, 2003
(09-14) 06:36 PDT LOS ANGELES (AP) --
A man who disrupted a United Airlines flight from Honolulu was subdued by passengers and airline officials who duct-taped him, then handed him over to authorities when the plane landed Sunday at Los Angeles International Airport, police said.
No one was reported injured during the altercation, said Sgt. Carl Sansbury of the airport police.
"The FBI is conducting an investigation," Sansbury said, adding he didn't know what prompted the outburst. He said police were called to the United gate about 4:45 a.m. and took the man into custody, then handed him over to the FBI.
The man, whose name was not immediately released, could face a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew, Sansbury said.
"The aircraft landed at the gate without incident," he said.
One of the plane's passengers, Joseph Gugerty, said the man got out of his seat and began talking and wandering the aisle about 90 minutes after United Flight 54 left Honolulu for Los Angeles.
"He was pacing and reading the Bible," said Gugerty who was returning to Kentucky, where he is chief of communications in The Associated Press' Louisville bureau.
"They basically put him down and duct-taped him and the police took him off when the plane landed," Gugerty said. He added that about a half-dozen passengers helped an air marshal subdue the man.
"They let him wander back and forth in the plane until he started to move forward," Gugerty said. "Then they surrounded him and pushed him to the floor. I don't know where they got the duct tape from."
"He was pacing and reading the Bible,"
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>>I have to fly on a U.S. carrier next November - my first visit to what is now the world's largest lunatic asylum since 911 !<<
Trust me, you wouldn't like it here... Cancel your ticket and tear up your green card application while you still can.
Trust me, you wouldn't like it here... Cancel your ticket and tear up your green card application while you still can.
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"The aircraft landed at the gate without incident" he said
I [always] thought that aircraft laned on the runway, but I might be wrong . BTW I read the bible today, but I was in Church
but on "occasions" in an aeroplane.....
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
I [always] thought that aircraft laned on the runway, but I might be wrong
. BTW I read the bible today, but I was in Church but on "occasions" in an aeroplane.....we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
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Quite possibly the guy was suffering from a mental problem if the usual culprit, alcohol, was not a factor.
It sounds to me like it was handled well from a security point of view, he was put under control before the situation escalated and he wasn't killed or injured. There have been fatalities in recent years in similar situations.
As far as using duct tape, perhaps the hand restraints were not easily accessable from the cabin. Or maybe the air marshal was one of my neighbors...
It sounds to me like it was handled well from a security point of view, he was put under control before the situation escalated and he wasn't killed or injured. There have been fatalities in recent years in similar situations.
As far as using duct tape, perhaps the hand restraints were not easily accessable from the cabin. Or maybe the air marshal was one of my neighbors...
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"How on earth can "pacing & reading the Bible "be a threatening act??!!" Did he start yelling that the end was due & that everyone should start praying before they died? From the news story "
Dont sound like a terrorist act to me either. However most of the nut cases I have had to deal with have plenty in common....Some are not harmful, but who knows.
Got to remember the world today is all about whos religion is best. Only difference between the Taliban and those who will save you if you send them more money is the clothing....
Im sure the Bible thumpers will have something to say on this.......
Dont sound like a terrorist act to me either. However most of the nut cases I have had to deal with have plenty in common....Some are not harmful, but who knows.
Got to remember the world today is all about whos religion is best. Only difference between the Taliban and those who will save you if you send them more money is the clothing....
Im sure the Bible thumpers will have something to say on this.......
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Good point, ManAdaSystem. In this day and age, and kind of abberant acts on an aircraft are bound to make the passengers nervous. Good on them for taking action.
In my experience as a captain, we can't really rely on the minimum wage people on the ground to protect us from these kinds of passengers. They simply do not have the training to identify troublemakers, and are not paid enough to care. The worst are the ground service providers such as Aviance and Globeground, who grab any imbecile off the street, give them an ID, a key to the tug, and let them at it.
Id put far more trust in my pax.
In my experience as a captain, we can't really rely on the minimum wage people on the ground to protect us from these kinds of passengers. They simply do not have the training to identify troublemakers, and are not paid enough to care. The worst are the ground service providers such as Aviance and Globeground, who grab any imbecile off the street, give them an ID, a key to the tug, and let them at it.
Id put far more trust in my pax.
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Those minimum wagers....
Bateman, I understand your point, but I think this is an instance when the minimum wagers you refer to may not have been at fault. We don't have any idea whether the soon-to-be-duct-taped-man was behaving strangely while going through security or when he checked in. Simply carrying a Bible should not be an indication to anyone that he's likely to go bonkers.
Edited to add that I really do, in the main, agree with what you've said. I was just referring to this incident.
Edited to add that I really do, in the main, agree with what you've said. I was just referring to this incident.
