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FRQ Charlie Bravo 18th June 2010 11:27


12 months on a Metro, 500+ hours ICUS and FO on a twin turbo-prop RPT.....CANT BEAT IT
:ouch:

I'm sure the passengers will thank you for those difficult months you spent 'doing the hard yards' on your parents' dollar as they bask in all thine glory from the rear of a Merlin

FRQ CB

Jethro Gibbs 18th June 2010 11:49

If your paying its not a job simple as that !:ugh:

j3pipercub 18th June 2010 13:09


Shall I bite? Or shall I leave it to J3
My ears were burning. What GG was referring to Owen is the fact that not that long ago, Miss Roxy was that stirring Probationary with little to no clue.

I reckon old mjohnstone is legit. Who else would put their first initial and last name for a stirring username...

mjohnstone


To get things you need to do the hard yards, its not just going to magically appear on your front door step and you get off the couch and open the door and its there. The ones that have currently succeeded have put everything into it, and deserve all the credit.
That's what I've been doing wrong all these years... Here I was thinking that finding those 2 week old pizza shapes in between the couch cushions was hard work... You've got it soooo much harder, F/O on a single pilot certified aircraft... Technically an autopilot or Flight Attendant...

How did you come by the funds to pay your first years wage plus training?

j3

bungeye 21st June 2010 01:16

fly
 
Hey Mate. What do you do and what do you fly?? cheers

mjohnstone 21st June 2010 01:27

Hey mate. Hate to break it to you but you got your facts wrong. RPT has to be two pilots, anything above 9 pax requires two pilots, therefor obviously Sharp require aCaptain and an FO. By the way does anyone who replied to my comments fly anything bigger than a single engine piston?:=:=:=

The Green Goblin 21st June 2010 01:33


Hey mate. Hate to break it to you but you got your facts wrong. RPT has to be two pilots, anything above 9 pax requires two pilots, therefor obviously Sharp require aCaptain and an FO. By the way does anyone who replied to my comments fly anything bigger than a single engine piston?
Yep, was flying a Metro after 2 years in GA with 1500TT/500 multi command, ATPL requirements sitting pretty waiting for a command.

You'll have 500 hours on a metro with no command time, no prospect of getting a command and the reality that you may have to go and fly through the GA ranks on one of those dreaded 210s to get back to the Metro :}

mjohnstone 21st June 2010 01:38

Like most people, saved up as much as possible and borrowed the rest from my parents, and plan to pay it back in the next 3-6 years, so how did you afford your carrer and how much did it cost?
cheer's

Wanderin_dave 21st June 2010 02:33

mjohnstone. Read your regs more thoroughly. The Metro is certified single pilot. The operation isn't. There's a difference.

And maybe look around the forum....pretty easy to figure out what these guys fly -hint it ain't single engine piston

j3pipercub 21st June 2010 04:14


By the way does anyone who replied to my comments fly anything bigger than a single engine piston?
I do love that question, the inference that we musn't know what we're talking about cos we might only be driving single engine pistons. Chances are that's where you'll be back to after you've finished the year driving that flash metro around, so don't let the smell of AVTUR get you too high there.

And in answer to your question, yes I do fly something bigger than a S/E piston, something with a MTOW of 6804 or 7485. Those figures ring a bell?


Like most people, saved up as much as possible and borrowed the rest from my parents, and plan to pay it back in the next 3-6 years, so how did you afford your carrer and how much did it cost?
I didn't have parents who I could afford to lend me money. I saved 65k over 4years. I must not be like most people...

j3

The Green Goblin 21st June 2010 04:17


Quote:
Like most people, saved up as much as possible and borrowed the rest from my parents, and plan to pay it back in the next 3-6 years, so how did you afford your carrer and how much did it cost?
I didn't have parents who I could afford to lend me money. I saved 65k over 4years. I must not be like most people...

j3
Along with myself. I didn't log my first hour until I had the money in the bank and was 22.

Cadet schemes are not so glamorous when you need to pay for it yourself :}

Jethro Gibbs 21st June 2010 06:29

If your paying its not a job :ugh:god how hard is this to work out if your paying its a course of some sort NOT A JOB.

mjohnstone 23rd June 2010 09:57

Actually wrong, you do get prospects of command time. 50%

Jethro Gibbs 23rd June 2010 11:13

You dont PAY for a job :ugh:

Jethro Gibbs 23rd June 2010 11:32

Operators these days must be laughing straight to the bank!
 
Operators these days must be laughing straight to the bank!
Yeah cause they now have people wanting to pay them for a job.
As victor meldrew said I don't believe it !

asw28-866 23rd June 2010 20:54

Three simple guides to being in a commercial flying job:

1) if YOU pay for the endorsement, it's not a job

2) if YOU pay for the CIR renewals, base checks, it's not a job

3) If YOU ever shell out a dollar for sitting in the aircraft, it's not a job

This industry is hard enough to earn a living wage in without cashed up individuals buying the seat.

Rant over.

And yes my ride only has a MTOW of 4110Kg so what do I know?

mjohnstone 24th June 2010 05:44

ROXY CHICK???
That's stupid, tell me whats wrong with starting with a regional airline, you have to to start small and work your way up. Your failing to understand the point. Its not always the best way to start with the big airlines, i know someone who did the Qantas cadetship ( sounds rather impressive ) over a year ago, and he hasn't got a job. He is still on the list waiting. Not a favourable situation. So explain what you think the best way to get up to the airlines.
Cheers

mjohnstone 24th June 2010 05:46

You pay for the 15 months training, you dont pay for the job.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/badteeth.gif

Jethro Gibbs 24th June 2010 06:39

Do you have a Job in the end are there any real paying jobs for your $ payed.

FRQ Charlie Bravo 24th June 2010 14:17

Agree with Rox. MJohnston you just don't know how to post (or maybe you do and you're actually just a twit).

You definitely need to read the Regs, and not just the ones Sharp photocopy for you. (RPT must be two pilots??? Elaborate.)

I'd love to see you fly a few of the single engine pistons around the joint and do it to a proper standard. The number of engines and your machine's MTOW are not direct correlations to your skill or worth as a pilot... even if they give you a cool hat to wear.

Nighty night.

FRQ CB

peugeotboi 31st January 2011 00:36

Some people are very fortunate to have the funds for a cadetship and some are unfortunate.

If you have to ask your parents for money, there's nothing wrong with that.

I may not know to much about the Aviation industry, but its fair to say that it doesn't take time to realise how hard the industry is, You need to be hungry to survive and succeeded.

So at the end of the day everyone chooses different paths in the industry and we need to support one another, to many negatives.

Safe Flying!!


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