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bentleg 16th August 2008 07:46

PPrune appearance
 
Starting today I seem to have lost all the formatting in PPrune. No other website seems to be affected. Is it my computer or PPrune? I had ten auto-updates downloaded last night, so am I alone or is it happenong to other people? My browser is IE7. Comments pls

Tidbinbilla 16th August 2008 07:55

Bentleg,

the biggest mistake a Windoze user can do is have automatic updates turned on. Take a look here before you apply any updates from Micro$oft:

http://www.askwoody.com

:}

mphysflier 16th August 2008 08:04

I seem to be in the same boat bentleg. No other websites affected and don't recall any automatic updates since last night either (but memory gets a bit hazy after a couple of reds on a Friday night....)

SmokingHole 16th August 2008 08:04

Tid
 
I seem to be having the same prob. Auto updates are off. No recent updates to this computer.......Started today.

Defenestrator 16th August 2008 08:11

Add me to the list as well. Anyone know how to fix it.

tail wheel 16th August 2008 08:14

Bentleg.

There has been a problem with PPRuNe for the past few weeks (or months) - see HERE.

The geeks that talk funny have been working around the clock to try to identify and rectify the problems - hence the site was down for maintenance around 10.00 am AEST this morning.

Not that I understand these computer things, but I believe four servers are currently carrying the load and if you log onto the crook one, you may get something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../TimeOut-1.jpg

(Yeah, I know, in frustration I made some modifications....... :{ )

If you find the site very slow or times out, or if you get "Database error" or the forum looks "strange":
  • Log out of PPRuNe
  • Clear Cookies
  • Close the browser
  • Open a new browser and log back into PPRuNe.
We're aware that the date/time stamp also has an intermittent fault and shows the wrong time.

Apologies from PPRuNe. Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon.

I've long since given up on IE7 at home. I use Mozilla Firefox - vastly superior.

Tail Wheel

bentleg 16th August 2008 08:24

Tried Tailwheel suggestion. No difference. The Clear Cookies worked, because I had to login again as the login cookie had been lost......Does anyone NOT have this problem and if so what browser?(Edited to remove formating not recognised while this problem applies)

tail wheel 16th August 2008 08:31

As I understand the problem, no browser is immune as it is a site server problem.

From the Boss Geek:


As I had mentioned previously we were able to set up monitoring from various areas around the globe and across each unit of a page download.

We've been tracking it all week and it's been very insightful. Though at times the site does hum along, there are also clearly times where it is dragging its tail, especially in Europe (especially in France!).

The primary culprit is what is known as "first byte download", which could be a number of things. We've been testing a couple of different ideas but have yet to crack it.

Then unfortunately today we got snagged by a completely different problem around connectivity with our firewall (Pprune wasn't alone with this one). Luckily the team dug in and solved this one but it took most of the day.

Tomorrow the team will concentrate once again on the "first byte download" issue which we think is really a combination of multiple issues -- auto redirects, file sizes and compression, apache configuration, persistent connections, location of servers, etc. Each of these potential solutions requires tweaking, testing, tweaking and testing and so the fix is not going to be immediate but we do have a TEAM of people working on this.

We also think that there is some erroneous interaction taking place between the ad system and the vBulletin software that may be the culprit of our notorious timestamp issues, so we're actively exploring solutions for that as well.
Tail Wheel

bentleg 16th August 2008 08:42

Thank you. A PPrune problem. I suspected so.

rmm 16th August 2008 09:08

I'm using Windoze 2000 with Firefox 3.0 and optusnet cable, no problems whatsoever (touch wood)

capt.cynical 16th August 2008 10:30

mmm
 
I also have the funny look & format prob.last MS update was 01-08-08 started today AEST between 0900 & 1300.Good luck sorting this one.

Capt Claret 16th August 2008 10:34

Well, Safari and my Mac work perfekly, jus' perfek. :}

landy01 16th August 2008 10:39

had the same problem:ugh: :{

Tried tailwheel's suggestion, worked perfectly all fixed:ok:

bentleg 16th August 2008 10:58


Tried Tailwheel suggestion. No difference. The Clear Cookies worked, because I had to login again as the login cookie had been lost
I deleted Temporary Internet Files, then reloaded IE. Bingo! Fixed. :ok:

forget 16th August 2008 11:05


I deleted Temporary Internet Files, then reloaded IE. Bingo! Fixed.
:ok::ok::ok:

Pinky the pilot 16th August 2008 11:07

What Bentleg said!:ok::ok: Worked a charm!

capt.cynical 16th August 2008 11:14

:ok:Ditto from me bentleg:):) worked well:D

Desert Flower 16th August 2008 12:38

Yo bentleg - you da man! :ok: :D

DF.

Trash Hauler 16th August 2008 13:18

Ctrl F5 fixed the problem for me...........all back to normal.

Cheers

TH

Jenna Talia 16th August 2008 14:03

Much Appreciated
 
A big, big thank you to admin 1. I sent a brief email concerned that my computer was cactus and he promptly returned a reply stating it was PPRUNE and not my computer. He later sent me another email advising to delete the contents of the Temp Internet Files and all would be OK.

Now, that is service :ok:

JT

corsair 16th August 2008 17:59


Ctrl F5 fixed the problem for me...........all back to normal.

Cheers

TH
That worked, brilliant. Simple, no caches, cookies or oodledipsers to delete or whatever. But exactly what does Ctrl F5 actually do?

maxgrad 16th August 2008 21:40

Glad I'm not the only silly bugger who pressed CTLF5 not knowing what the heck it does.
Did work a treat though!

james michael 16th August 2008 21:54

I had the funny screen, PM TW early, used his tips and AOK, thanks TW. Not the screen he/she put up here but the one without all the pix etc others have mentioned.

TID - that's a useful site you linked.

As an aside, just to know if it's my end or Pprune - has anyone also been getting a bomb out to the 'internet site not available' screen in IE7 when moving between the two D&G forums, or lost posts when pushing the 'submit reply'?

bushy 17th August 2008 01:45

JM
 
I had exactly what you describe.

Now I have to apologise to my computer for all the naughty words I said to it.

Buster Hyman 17th August 2008 02:57

I demand a refund!!!Tail Wheel...if you could organise that through my Nigerian accountant, I'd be most appreciative.

tail wheel 17th August 2008 08:01

Done Buster. I sent it to your Nigerian accountant and he's promised me $45 million.... :}

The problem is being investigated almost around the clock. You can rest assured Danny and the Mod team have pressure on the site administrators to rectify whatever is causing the problem.

CTL F5 seems to clear the problem. Alternatively, log out, clear cookies and history and log back into PPRuNe in a new browser.

The good news I guess is that Australia seems to be almost immune from the problems. It appears far worse in the UK and parts of Europe.

Sorry I can't give you any indication of when it may be fixed.

Buster Hyman 17th August 2008 08:11


Done Buster. I sent it to your Nigerian accountant and he's promised me $45 million....
(tee-hee! Once I give him my PIN & account numbers, I'll be rich I tells ya!!!)

multime 17th August 2008 12:25

Sorted
 
Thanks to Prune
Just wasn,t my day without a prune fix.
Regards
M:ok:

HotDog 18th August 2008 00:54

Still no smilies or icons.

flog 18th August 2008 01:55

What Ctrl F5 does
 
Ctrl F5 tells the web browser (IE at least) to go and ask for everything again, ignoring the contents of the cache, temp files, cookies, etc.It's good for this as well as some websites where you know the content has refreshed but you're still seeing old stuff.Flog (aka, geek).

bentleg 18th August 2008 06:20


Still no smilies or icons.
Delete Temporary Internet Files, then reload IE.

HotDog 18th August 2008 08:22

Magic! Thanks bentleg.

Keg 18th August 2008 08:26

If you're using IE7 then you deserve everything you get! :E I've never had hassles with Firefox! :ok:

slam_dunk 18th August 2008 15:36

Thanks for THE tip !

Ctrl F5 did the trick !

( but why was it screwed up in the first place? :confused:)

james michael 18th August 2008 22:03

Keg

:ok:

Moved to Firefox and overjoyed - should have done so years ago.

Buster Hyman 19th August 2008 14:22

Careful with Firefox, Hackers just hit them!

BEACH KING 22nd August 2008 06:18

Deleting temporary internet files seemed to work for me.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/lamer.gif

tail wheel 22nd August 2008 07:07

I am advised a number of site problems have been resolved, however there is still an intermittent problem with the site responses slowing down for short periods.

I will advise further if I hear of any improvements.

Pinky the pilot 22nd August 2008 11:25

Taily, Does this mean that the beatings will continue until morale/performance improves?:}:E

hadagutfull 23rd August 2008 16:57

get a mac....


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