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MakeItHappenCaptain 2nd Apr 2024 20:50

B58 Gear Up at Gold Coast Airport (Coolangatta)
 
VH-YDC seems to have gone for a little slide down the runway at YBCG last night.
Good news, no injuries. Plenty of sparks.
Usual crap reporting from Ch 7.
“They were circling the airport, dumping fuel…”

B2N2 2nd Apr 2024 21:06


Originally Posted by MakeItHappenCaptain (Post 11628226)
VH-YDC seems to have gone for a little slide down the runway at YBCG last night.
Good news, no injuries.

Its a BE-58 not a B58 (Hustler).
I need two minutes of my life back pls.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f87bca00.jpeg

TimmyTee 2nd Apr 2024 21:35

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/fiery-emergency-landing-on-the-gold-coast-got-into-a-lot-of-trouble/news-story/108b3e88d4386c454749ff726ad690bb

At the end of the news report she states "this was lucky escape for them".
It was nothing of the sort - having gone in and out of OOL while they circled (near on 3 hours, not the "one" stated), they remained incredibly calm and professional, even with numerous jet traffic coming and going, and day turning to night.

They did multiple low passes when requested, allowing ground personnel to spotlight them to determine if any of the efforts to lower the main left had worked. Obviously it remained up, and they made the most minimal risk landing possible (low fuel and electrics off).

No idea who the boys were in there, but both of them handled it incredibly well, along with the bloke in the tower who was getting smashed with update requests from other departures, arrivals, enroute etc.

A professional repsonse all round!

43Inches 2nd Apr 2024 22:02


It was nothing of the sort - having gone in and out of OOL while they circled (near on 3 hours, not the "one" stated), they remained incredibly calm and professional, even with numerous jet traffic coming and going, and day turning to night.
Having had a few gear malfunctions over the years the Adrenalin doesn't really kick in until the last 5 minutes when you realize you might actually be landing sans all wheels. I think circling for 3 hours is a bit excessive though, burning off fuel I don't think is a massive consideration unless you want to land below max landing weight, which if they were about to land at the start sounds like it was already achieved. I do know of a few situations though where playing with the un-fixable situation for too long has led to an accident or low fuel state when a landing would have ended in a non event a lot earlier. Not saying you should rush these events, but don't dither around once it's clear its not coming out, anything else could happen and your own fatigue and stress levels are building up all the time making the final landing more difficult. There's been plenty of unintentional gear ups with lots of fuel on board to demonstrate the plane does not explode on contact with tarmac, unless of course its some form of fighter jet.

TURIN 2nd Apr 2024 22:31


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 11628233)
Its a BE-58 not a B58 (Hustler).
I need two minutes of my life back pls.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f87bca00.jpeg

Djtto. Got all excited for a moment.

tdracer 2nd Apr 2024 23:27


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 11628266)
Djtto. Got all excited for a moment.

Same here - I (would have been) surprised that a B-58 was still airworthy and flying - and it would have been a real shame if such a precious bird had to do a wheels up landing.

By George 2nd Apr 2024 23:46

In defence of ‘Make it happen Captain’ my old CAR5 licence has ‘B55/B58’.

Capt Fathom 2nd Apr 2024 23:53

I think most of us know there are no B58 Hustlers on the Australian Register! :E

Let’s hope the media don’t get hold of this…..:}

Capt Fathom 3rd Apr 2024 00:04

‘my old CAR5 licence has ‘B55/B58’.

Mine says ‘Baron/Travelair’. Each Region had their own unique way of recording things.

TBM-Legend 3rd Apr 2024 00:59


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11628292)
I think most of us know there are no B58 Hustlers on the Australian Register! :E

Let’s hope the media don’t get hold of this…..:}

there is no B58 Hustler the correct USAF nomenclature is B-58

dejapoo 3rd Apr 2024 02:17

I remember a B55/58 once getting plonked on my licence without me ever being in one (the big or little one)... good old CASA.. they know boats

megan 3rd Apr 2024 02:26

B58 - Just to show the term does get used in the industry - large Canadian aviation school.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1729270bcd.png

witwiw 3rd Apr 2024 03:31

I'm wondering what more could have been done in 3 hours to potentially solve the problem that could not have been done in an hour or so? Getting engineering advice, possibly?

Entirely up to the crew to choose the time of landing however I also wonder if they stayed airborne longer to allow the resources necessary to quickly remove the a/c from the runway to get put in place so that the runway remained blocked for the minimum of time. As stated, there were many arrivals/departures they may not have been possible had the a/c landed at the first opportunity after all fixing attempts were exhausted.

It'll all be made clear in the end, hopefully.

MakeItHappenCaptain 3rd Apr 2024 04:49

If it takes two minutes to find a hustler pic, then you ain't hustling enough. (30 secs)

Wizofoz 3rd Apr 2024 06:33

I was at the holding point at YBCG a few weeks ago, and a Barron went around because it's gear would'nt come down- wonder if it's the same aircraft.

KRviator 3rd Apr 2024 07:10


Originally Posted by witwiw (Post 11628350)
I'm wondering what more could have been done in 3 hours to potentially solve the problem that could not have been done in an hour or so? Getting engineering advice, possibly?

Might as well maximize the logbook before you bend the aeroplane!

deadlegdeadengine 3rd Apr 2024 08:31


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 11628241)

No idea who the boys were in there, but both of them handled it incredibly well, along with the bloke in the tower who was getting smashed with update requests from other departures, arrivals, enroute etc.

A professional repsonse all round!

well said. The HFO/HOO and another very senior instructor were onboard. They did an outstanding job. Any landing you walk away from…

cloudsurfng 3rd Apr 2024 08:51

Also heard this going on. Incredibly professional and calm by the pilot and tower controller. Well done, hats off to you.

Peter Fanelli 3rd Apr 2024 10:49

Would someone please post a picture of a BE-58 badge on a plane of that type....if you can find one.

MakeItHappenCaptain 3rd Apr 2024 13:32

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fcaf8f8bc.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3fcdbf56b.jpeg
Technically, the 55 Baron did have the A55, B55, C55, etc as sub variants…
Maybe the current model in production should be the GE58?


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