Lizard Island - Aircraft Overshoot.
 

My local radio station reporting an aircraft with 9 POB has overshot the runway at Lizard Is. QLD.
RFDS attending.
Substantial 'drop' at the N end.......

Nil other info as yet - type etc unknown....but, knowing these 'channels'....not for long.

Looks like a caravan. Part of CH9 eloquent report " A photograph obtained by 9News showed the single propeller plane upside down in low brush and sand, with the fuselage shredded and pieces of debris nearby.
The badly mangled plane, with its propellers busted off, was cordoned off by emergency tape." :rolleyes:

VH-NWJ - Cessna 208B Grand Caravan https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-nwj

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-...rash/103292742

Two people are being treated for minor injuries at Cairns Base Hospital after a light aircraft crashed on a remote island in the Great Barrier Reef.

Queensland Ambulance Service Acting Assistant Commissioner Brina Keating said a call for help was received around 7:30 this morning after a plane taking off from Lizard Island's runway collided with trees and flipped.

She said nine adults and one 14-year-old girl were on board, with one adult sustaining a minor head injury and another a minor arm injury.

Tks Mr 1A.......didn't take 'long' at all.....

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What were the trees doing in the way?

Apparently the pilot did an incredible job. Take that however you please I guess!

Lizard Island, Great Barrier Reef: Plane carrying nine people crashes after overshooting runway | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Channel 10 news in Sydney is reporting the aircraft had engine trouble.

Was there a problem soon after departing which required a return to land

News articles claim that it was taking off. With less than 1,000 metres, there's not a lot of time to spare when you realise something is wrong and you want to abort! Based on that, it's a half decent outcome.

Based on what I've read in the media, it's obvious none of them have any idea what might have happened.... but that doesn't stop them making something up!

7 News ( yeah, I know..) said it was an engine failure on/after takeoff, pilot did a 180 to return but ended up 100m short of the
strip, and then impacted vegetation, causing it to flip over.

Very glad to see they all made it out.

You seemed surprised by that?!?!?

Haha. 7 News didn’t check which direction the skids marks came from. :E

Any further info on this incident? Looks like a bit of a mess tbh.

Is there a definitive version of what happened yet?

Yes, it crashed.

RNR ignore Ducks stupid infantile reply. I’m interested in this as its a PT6 failure either on take off or shortly after departing the circuit. A few minutes later they could of all been in the water

We don't know that. All the ATSB are saying right now is that "During initial climb, the aircraft experienced engine issues and the pilot attempted to return to Lizard Island" - which could mean a host of things other than straight-out failure.

Please wait. Information loading: https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...rt/ao-2024-001

Any idea who the driver was? PM please.

PC I agree. I should of qualified my statement

Years ago there was a Caravan that dead sticked onto Lake Burbury in Tasmania. The first indication that all was not right was a chip detector light. Not long after the engine stopped and they were all very lucky that they were not over the mountains. That was caused by a starter/generator electrical spike making its way into the main bearing causing pitting. The chip detector light was the first indication that the bearing was about to self-destruct.

Were the trees at the end of the strip Notamed?

No. But infringing trees are noted as obstacles in the ERSA entry.

Without speculating, if it was a turn back due to a loss of power, the pilot has done an exceptional job with a good outcome albeit that the machine is a write off.

The accident also demonstrates the strength and integrity of the airframe for everyone to survive without any major injuries. If it was in a low wing aircraft, I’m certain that the outcome would have been a lot worse.

How do do reckon a PC12 would stack up in comparison, pardon the pun?

Umm. Ok.

Well, it would have glided further for a start…

Certainly NO LACK of power from the engine!

Have a look at the ground speed on the flight aware data. He is at 185kts for an extended period. A combination of the speed and tracking might give some hints to what the nature of the failure was.

Lizard Island - Aircraft Overshoot.
 

Correct. But this appears to be different.

The photo that shows two blades in feather shows them both bent similarly in the same direction as if under a lot of power. If the blades in feather had no engine power being delivered to them, they would have been free wheeling at very slow RPM and upon impact with the ground, the damage would be different.

I would say apples to apples, a fatal or many fatalities.

Feather or Beta? Could have been trying to slow himself down after touchdown. Should be doing 80-100KIAS depending on config during the glide. I don't think it was a turnback now from what I've seen.

The ATSB think it might have been a turnback.
From the preliminary report:
"During initial climb, the aircraft experienced engine issues and the pilot attempted to return to Lizard Island. During landing the aircraft collided with trees and came to rest inverted. The aircraft sustained substantial damage and there were reports of serious injuries among the occupants."

I guess that they would have asked the people on board by now and established that fact.

That's a bold statement.

The reports iv heard is it was an un commanded increase in torque. The pilot then returned to land, shut the engine down on approach to land and subsequently overshot/landed long. That would explain the 185kt ground speed.

That is correct.

Rookie, it was still a turnback of some sort, regardless of engine failure or un-commanded increase in torque. I just quoted from the Preliminary Report from the ATSB. "...and the pilot attempted to return to Lizard Island."

And the pilot attempted to return. Very different to a turnback

There was recently a similar event in Canada on January 10, I think. A DHC-3T had an uncommanded increase in torque, exceeded Vmo, then ended up short of the runway.