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Bevan666 8th Jan 2024 20:34


Originally Posted by runway16 (Post 11567880)
As an aside I see some WAC charts are new featuring control airspace boundaries on the previously geographical features only charts.
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The WAC charts now have restricted airspace depicted on them, however the WAC charts are still being updated on a 2-4 year cycle. When airspace changes (and there have been quite a few restricted airspace changes this past November) the airspace on the WAC is not being updated...

(Which is the reason we added airspace overlays into AvPlan EFB many many years ago, so airspace on the WAC was correctly depicted)

Bevan

Clinton McKenzie 8th Jan 2024 21:08

Any minute now they'll reinvent paper VECs, which were updated with VTCs etc!

I confess to being a bit of a luddite, because I do carry WACs as back up on 'big' trips. Gizmos can and do malfunction. (Out of YNRM during a recent visit to the WGC, both iPads failed just after take-off due overheating. There was no need to revert to paper, as I know NSW pretty well and there was still my iPhone and Garmin watch, but it was a timely reminder.)

And, in any event, you have to know how to use the EFB apps properly. A punter recently lobbed into my local aerodrome and proceeded to remonstrate with the gliding fraternity operating there, about there being no notice of their operations on the punter's EFB. There was and remains a published NOTAM of the gliding operations at the aerodrome, which NOTAM appears against the aerodrome on my EFB. I therefore strongly suspect finger trouble on the part of the punter, rather than a problem with his EFB.

(I continue to love AvPlan. However, for that reason I have not tried OzRunways. I know lots of pilots who continue to love OzR. We're very lucky to have the choice and the competition.)

PiperCameron 8th Jan 2024 22:06


Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie (Post 11571740)
(I continue to love AvPlan. However, for that reason I have not tried OzRunways. I know lots of pilots who continue to love OzR. We're very lucky to have the choice and the competition.)

As a new convert from OzRunways (RWY is brilliant on Android phones) to AvPlan (iPad only until recently), from my recent experience Ozrunways is more intuitive to your Joe Average VFR Pilot straight out-of-the-box whereas AvPlan is a lot more "powerful"/feature rich once you get to know it ..and there's no going back once you do.

Yes, we certainly are spoilt for choice over here, but full marks must go to Bevan and his team for putting together an EFB that really is capable of taking on the world. :ok:

Bosi72 9th Jan 2024 00:24

Is OzRunways still refusing to share the traffic data with AvPlan?

I understand there is an alternative app, a 3rd party application which connects to both, but it would be better if two companies could get together and improve safety for both of their customers.

Bug 9th Jan 2024 01:10


Originally Posted by Bosi72 (Post 11571897)
Is OzRunways still refusing to share the traffic data with AvPlan?

I understand there is an alternative app, a 3rd party application which connects to both, but it would be better if two companies could get together and improve safety for both of their customers.

If there is such a 3rd party app simultaneously showing traffic from both OzRunways & Avplan I would love to know what it is.

Squawk7700 9th Jan 2024 02:27


Originally Posted by Bug (Post 11571913)
If there is such a 3rd party app simultaneously showing traffic from both OzRunways & Avplan I would love to know what it is.

Avtraffic.

mikewil 10th Jan 2024 05:01


Originally Posted by Bug (Post 11571913)
If there is such a 3rd party app simultaneously showing traffic from both OzRunways & Avplan I would love to know what it is.

It doesn't share the OzRunways and AvPlan traffic, what it does is arguably much better.

It displays ADSB traffic from whatever public source FlightAware also uses. It doesn't seem to have quite the same depth of coverage as FlightRadar would (due to fewer ground stations) but it is still a very useful tool to aid in traffic awareness.

It is called AvTraffic.

maxter 10th Jan 2024 06:24

There are still a large number of aircraft flying within Australia that do not have ADS-B but do show on OzRunways. Not familiar but assume same with AvPlan.

zegnaangelo 10th Jan 2024 06:27

Is Ozrunways connected to ADSB?

I wasn't flying with Ozrunways the other day but was using my ADSB. Some other pilot commented they could see me on their "Ozrunways"

Squawk7700 10th Jan 2024 08:44


Originally Posted by zegnaangelo (Post 11572825)
Is Ozrunways connected to ADSB?

I wasn't flying with Ozrunways the other day but was using my ADSB. Some other pilot commented they could see me on their "Ozrunways"

That means that they have an ADSB-IN source feeding into their OzRuwnays, such as a SkyEcho or Stratux or similar.

If you’re using a SkyEcho and OzRunways; the OZRuwnays 4G traffic shows in a light blue bubble and the ADSB-IN shows as dark blue.


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