Is OzRunways or Foreflight a better EFB for recreational use and bush piloting?
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Is OzRunways or Foreflight a better EFB for recreational use and bush piloting?
I am contemplating which EFB to go with as i am in the market for one and was hoping some of you could give me the pros and cons of each what what you would recommend. Thanks
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2nd Jan 2024, 07:50
Hi Mr P., .....Well, 'back in the day'......did'na have no 'fancy gismos' - they were'nt invented yet - just a map, (WAC) ruler, and a sharp pencil.
Learned how to nav at rather 'low levels' and assess drift by observation. Never got 'lost', and keeps yer head outside the window...fer traffic and dem low flyin' eagles etc....
Sometimes, semi trailers yousta flash their headlights at me over the Nullabor, and I would give'em a wave. Dem highway 'milestones' of the day were great fer G/S checks.
'appy 24...........
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Learned how to nav at rather 'low levels' and assess drift by observation. Never got 'lost', and keeps yer head outside the window...fer traffic and dem low flyin' eagles etc....
Sometimes, semi trailers yousta flash their headlights at me over the Nullabor, and I would give'em a wave. Dem highway 'milestones' of the day were great fer G/S checks.
'appy 24...........
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ForeFlight doesn’t have the webcams like OzRunways does.
Google earth or Apple Maps. They are free. 🤣
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Struth!!! What's wrong with a WAC chart and an ERS?
FSO Griffo; Your comments?
Nurse, me pills please!!!
FSO Griffo; Your comments?
Nurse, me pills please!!!
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I found AvPlan customer support better than OzRunways.
Both are offering 30 days free trial period, try them both.
Functionality-wise, they both do more or less the same, however, for me AvPlan was/is the way to go.
Both are offering 30 days free trial period, try them both.
Functionality-wise, they both do more or less the same, however, for me AvPlan was/is the way to go.
Hi Mr P., .....Well, 'back in the day'......did'na have no 'fancy gismos' - they were'nt invented yet - just a map, (WAC) ruler, and a sharp pencil.
Learned how to nav at rather 'low levels' and assess drift by observation. Never got 'lost', and keeps yer head outside the window...fer traffic and dem low flyin' eagles etc....
Sometimes, semi trailers yousta flash their headlights at me over the Nullabor, and I would give'em a wave. Dem highway 'milestones' of the day were great fer G/S checks.
'appy 24...........
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Learned how to nav at rather 'low levels' and assess drift by observation. Never got 'lost', and keeps yer head outside the window...fer traffic and dem low flyin' eagles etc....
Sometimes, semi trailers yousta flash their headlights at me over the Nullabor, and I would give'em a wave. Dem highway 'milestones' of the day were great fer G/S checks.
'appy 24...........
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Back in the day ....
Amberley - Lord Howe Island in a Caribou. Had a Drift sight fitted to the emergency escape window to take drift readings looking a the wave tops on the sea surface below, then trundled up to the cockpit and plotted "said" result on chart. Was very thankful, when the NDB needle swung into range.....
Amberley - Lord Howe Island in a Caribou. Had a Drift sight fitted to the emergency escape window to take drift readings looking a the wave tops on the sea surface below, then trundled up to the cockpit and plotted "said" result on chart. Was very thankful, when the NDB needle swung into range.....
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As one of the old school being able to properly read a WAC is almost a lost art. The paper chart is nice to have if the screen goes blank.
Folk have complained that there’s nothing to see on the Tanami wac or the ground …but there is if you look at both carefully.
aEarly trips there before gps accurate nav and careful map reading was a must.
With gps it became a doddle…providing the battery didn’t go flat.
And Honiara to Nauru, wasn’t it lovely with all that wide blue Pacific to see the ADF needle indicate the destination.
Folk have complained that there’s nothing to see on the Tanami wac or the ground …but there is if you look at both carefully.
aEarly trips there before gps accurate nav and careful map reading was a must.
With gps it became a doddle…providing the battery didn’t go flat.
And Honiara to Nauru, wasn’t it lovely with all that wide blue Pacific to see the ADF needle indicate the destination.
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Efb's are not about the Navigation only.
They are also about Weather, Briefs, Taf/Gaf, WnB, Fuel, Notams, Prd, Lsalt, Bod/Eod, Planning, Approach plates, etc...
Regardless, watch-map-ground and 1 in 60 are techniques still taught at flight schools and examined for the licence flight tests.
They are also about Weather, Briefs, Taf/Gaf, WnB, Fuel, Notams, Prd, Lsalt, Bod/Eod, Planning, Approach plates, etc...
Regardless, watch-map-ground and 1 in 60 are techniques still taught at flight schools and examined for the licence flight tests.
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An instructor at Moorabbin told me a story a few years ago about a bunch of new CPL holders who decided that they would do a trip to Broome (or somewhere remote) after they passed their CPL flight tests.
On the day of departure, the instructor asked them about their paper maps etc, answer was we aren't taking any as we have iPads. Obviously quite legal in this day and age, however to do such a trip with their limited experience without any back up paper maps would have been dangerous and stupid. I think a few $$ may have been spent at the pilot's shop on maps before they left....
On the day of departure, the instructor asked them about their paper maps etc, answer was we aren't taking any as we have iPads. Obviously quite legal in this day and age, however to do such a trip with their limited experience without any back up paper maps would have been dangerous and stupid. I think a few $$ may have been spent at the pilot's shop on maps before they left....
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EFBs are best thing since sliced bread. Recently started flying again. Use OzRunways haven’t used others. Especially like the smart approach plates. Carry a backup iPad and second backup on my phone.
Surely there’s no luddites left still doing paper updates. That was the worst 😂
Surely there’s no luddites left still doing paper updates. That was the worst 😂
I flew from Bundaberg to Melbourne 4 times back in the days of paper maps whilst delivering some new aircraft, and it used to cost $70+ to buy the required maps to make me legal. Makes the EFB subscriptions look like good value!
To me Ozrunways v Avplan is like Ford v Holden. Or is it Holden v Ford. So I am told. Never make up my mind on that.
It seems that as fast as one moves forward with a new feature the opposition plays leap frog and out of the hat produces something the same or better.
Ah I love competition!
As an aside I see some WAC charts are new featuring control airspace boundaries on the previously geographical features only charts.
R
It seems that as fast as one moves forward with a new feature the opposition plays leap frog and out of the hat produces something the same or better.
Ah I love competition!
As an aside I see some WAC charts are new featuring control airspace boundaries on the previously geographical features only charts.
R
Jesus christ, all the old farts on here piping up, some are tongue in cheek but a few I suspect not as much as they'd like to pretend. I've used OzRunways a lot and it gets my vote as being quite rigorous and lots of great features to take advantage of. But as others said they all usually have a 30 day trial so I'd say give them all a fair crack and see what suits you best. If you've got MS Flight Sim at home then most of them have plugins to use them with it so can simulate some short flights to see how they hold up and get a better idea of what to expect inflight.
Also take into consideration that some have different Android vs Apple versions/features, I specifically had to buy an iPad a long time ago for OzRunways because the features it had there were above and beyond that of Android which still seems to be the case, see this link for comparison, and would recommend checking this for other apps as well to see what you're getting and consider whether you might need to buy an iPad or Android device instead.
Also take into consideration that some have different Android vs Apple versions/features, I specifically had to buy an iPad a long time ago for OzRunways because the features it had there were above and beyond that of Android which still seems to be the case, see this link for comparison, and would recommend checking this for other apps as well to see what you're getting and consider whether you might need to buy an iPad or Android device instead.
Jesus christ, all the old farts on here piping up, some are tongue in cheek but a few I suspect not as much as they'd like to pretend.
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I'm a relatively old bastard............the other old bastards on here need to get a grip, so does CASA. Y'all need to concentrate on making EFB's safer, working on increasing situational awareness with the use of these rather than 'carrying paper maps' everywhere. I learn't on paper solely, loved it and got a great sense of satisfaction from it, did my MEIR without GPS, but move on folks, the world and aviation has changed.
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My 2 cents worth.
I have used OzRunways, ForeFlight and Jepp FD Pro X.
For domestic use, Oz Runways is best IMHO. It's just better set up for Oz domestic needs. Support is great too, they even respond on weekends.
ForeFlight is also good and would be preferred if doing anything outside Oz or if you need your EFB to communicate with say, Garmin G1000 NXi avionics (wifi connection). App has some similar functions/input method to JEPP FD Pro.
Jepp FD Pro. Jepp prices! for airliners.
I have used OzRunways, ForeFlight and Jepp FD Pro X.
For domestic use, Oz Runways is best IMHO. It's just better set up for Oz domestic needs. Support is great too, they even respond on weekends.
ForeFlight is also good and would be preferred if doing anything outside Oz or if you need your EFB to communicate with say, Garmin G1000 NXi avionics (wifi connection). App has some similar functions/input method to JEPP FD Pro.
Jepp FD Pro. Jepp prices! for airliners.