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I think we'll find that organisations with a CASA Certificate of Approval to do maintenance on ejection seats are pretty thin on the ground. The number with ITARs clearance to have access to current tech data on ejection seats manufactured in the USA would be thinner.
And the Operations Manual chapter dealing with the pre-, during and post-flight procedures for use of ejection seats in civilian operations would probably exceed the MTOW of the aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 11543096)
The most extreme speed they hit on the day was around 270 knots based on FR24 and the lowest altitude in the area was around 1,200ft. The MB MK10 has a minimum height limit of ZERO feet and a maximum speed for ejection of 630 KIAS, so well within limits, IF it was indeed operative. The issue at that height would be if the aircraft was inverted. You can indeed eject inverted, however I can't find the suggested data on the minimum safe deployment altitude for such a scenario.
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...ght_manual.pdf https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....01962e5918.gif |
Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie
(Post 11543103)
And the Operations Manual chapter dealing with the pre-, during and post-flight procedures for use of ejection seats in civilian operations would probably exceed the MTOW of the aircraft.
(Somewhat in contrast to RAAF and RNZAF procedures for troops having flights in fighter jets, circa 1980. My preflight 'bang seat' briefings for Mirage and Skyhawk flights were each about a minute. But the really important stuff about ejecting before the pilot was well covered.) |
Originally Posted by gerry111
(Post 11543113)
Indeed.
(Somewhat in contrast to RAAF and RNZAF procedures for troops having flights in fighter jets, circa 1980. My preflight 'bang seat' briefings for Mirage and Skyhawk flights were each about a minute. But the really important stuff about ejecting before the pilot was well covered.) |
Originally Posted by gerry111
(Post 11543113)
Indeed.
(Somewhat in contrast to RAAF and RNZAF procedures for troops having flights in fighter jets, circa 1980. My preflight 'bang seat' briefings for Mirage and Skyhawk flights were each about a minute. But the really important stuff about ejecting before the pilot was well covered.) Then before brakes off was told "If we have EFATO I will call Eject, Eject. If you are still here after the second call - you will be by yourself." |
Did I recently see a cockpit video of an ejection of the pilot and a troop on a jolly from an NZ Skyhawk, GIII? Flown by an erstwhile colleague?
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Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11543115)
Please tell us more about your 'briefings' with the RAAF Mirage & RNZAF Skyhawk. Were you in these Air Forces at the time or a civvie?
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Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie
(Post 11543119)
Did I recently see a cockpit video of an ejection of the pilot and a troop on a jolly from an NZ Skyhawk, GIII? Flown by an erstwhile colleague?
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Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie
(Post 11543119)
Did I recently see a cockpit video of an ejection of the pilot and a troop on a jolly from an NZ Skyhawk, GIII? Flown by an erstwhile colleague?
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That's the one! Mixing my Macchis with my Skyhawks...
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Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie
(Post 11543127)
That's the one! Mixing my Macchis with my Skyhawks...
Back-seater was left with ongoing back issues I seem to remember - he was quite tall. |
ABC reporting wreckage located.
Sorry, can’t add link for some reason. Link: https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e6100323e3b4b0 |
Originally Posted by joe_bloggs
(Post 11543130)
ABC reporting wreckage located.
Sorry, can’t add link for some reason. https://www.theguardian.com/australi...e-stephen-gale Victoria police on Tuesday morning confirmed crews found a large part of the body of the plane off the shore of Mornington. Police planned to search the fuselage once it was removed from the water |
Originally Posted by DARKMAIZE
(Post 11543142)
DF. |
Originally Posted by Desert Flower
(Post 11543192)
Just watched the CH10 news & they are saying that retrieving the wreckage is going to be very tricky because the aircraft was fitted with ejection seats. It will require Navy clearance divers to do it..
Anyways, here's a good summary of what we know so far: |
Originally Posted by PiperCameron
(Post 11543202)
Even if they were inerted (ie. contain no explosives)?!?? Interesting..
Anyways, here's a good summary of what we know so far: https://youtu.be/oxwTUW6mKa4?feature=shared |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 11543207)
Who confirmed that they are inert? That’s just hearsay.
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We need to consult the guru: Geoffrey Thomas.
Or perhaps the MSM already have... |
Who confirmed that they are inert? That’s just hearsay. |
Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA
(Post 11543210)
Plenty of people know Stephen and the jet involved. The seats are inert.
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