Westall 1966 flying saucer incident
I have been talking to Andrew Greenwood, who was a teacher at Westall High School not far from Moorabbin Airport, when a UFO was sighted near the school on 6 April 1966. It has become quite famous – known as the Westall flying saucer incident. Here is a link to the Facebook page.
You might also like to look at the Wikipedia entry here. Andrew Greenwood said that on the day, he and one of the other teachers rang the Moorabbin Tower to ask about four or five aircraft that were seen flying close to the UFO. Andrew says that the tower said there were no aircraft flying in that area at the time. This seems quite mysterious that the Tower would say that, considering the Westall High School was right on the boundary of the control zone. Does anyone have any information on this, or does anyone know a controller who could have been present at the time? I realise it is unlikely that any of the air traffic controllers operating the tower in 1966 are still around – however, there may have been a hand down of discussion or history of the Westall incident. It would be great if we could shed some extra light on this. |
I spoke to a guy who said that while he was working as ATC in the YMRE TWR in the late 60s he saw objects of the same description heading in a north-westerly direction. Weeks later the first reports of the geoglyph that's now called 'The Maree Man' were made.
Spooky. |
There were also ufo sightings in SA in the 60s at the time of the bomb tests at Maralinga.
Some objects were seen over Adelaide. All unexplained. It was a great time for aeroplane spotters too with all the unusual UK stuff associated with that. What year was the Bass Strait ufo episode? |
Originally Posted by aroa
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There were also ufo sightings in SA in the 60s at the time of the bomb tests at Maralinga.
Some objects were seen over Adelaide. All unexplained. It was a great time for aeroplane spotters too with all the unusual UK stuff associated with that. What year was the Bass Strait ufo episode? |
Yes. The human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited!
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Originally Posted by Paul O'Rourke
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It was the 20th / 21st October, 1978. George Simpson (Author) said a farmer in the Murray Bridge area had observed an aircraft stuck to the side of a ufo, a few days after Valentich’s disappearance. A few months ago I was chatting with some Cobden pilots. 2 of them said there was a chap in the Cape Otway area that witnessed the aircraft stuck to a ufo and the chap was recently living on the western side of warrnambool. Maybe the second witness read George’s book? If not, 2 witnesses corroborating the same story is interesting.
The Westall UFO sighting is possibly the most credible UFO sightings worldwide of all time. The sheer number of credible witnesses is compelling. |
Squawk. I suggest you key "false memory" into Wikipedia and you may have the answer.
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith
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Squawk. I suggest you key "false memory" into Wikipedia and you may have the answer.
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I might go to this, it’s just down the road from my place.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....edca9587d.jpeg |
The human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited! |
VH-DSJ farmer’s sighting:
I tell you, I HATE IT when I'm flying my Cessna and some damn alien beams me up and sticks me to his ship. Bastards! The entire VH-DSJ investigation docs 341 pages are available in www.naa.gov.au Fascinating reading. |
In Plain Sight
by Ross Coulthart
A lot of detailed sighting reports backed up by footnotes, references etc. BUT it is of course up to you how much you believe. I found the reports mainly credible but it is the explanations that mostly lack solid evidence. Still, I've read lots worse (like the aviation regs). |
At least these events did not involve the often typical and personally invasive behaviour of these despicable aliens: probing.
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Why would 4 or 5 light aircraft be flying in that area.
It looks to be right on the control zone boundary. Or was it all imagined? |
It's known as: "The Beaumaris Bay Black Hole".
Aircraft enter but are never seen again.... |
VH-DSJ according to Wikipedia:
What is significant about the file, Mr Basterfield argues, is that for the first time it is revealed that parts of aircraft wreckage with partial serial numbers were found in Bass Strait five years after the disappearance. Mr Basterfield says Valentich's aircraft serial numbers fell within the range of those found on the wreckage, This is in a completely different ballgame to the Westall incident. Teachers, students and others all saw the Westall UFO. Credible witnesses, all with the exact same story. |
I reckon it was most likely false memory!
Squawk. If not , where do you think the UFO came from and where did it go? And what was it. |
Originally Posted by Dick Smith
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I reckon it was most likely false memory!
Squawk. If not , where do you think the UFO came from and where did it go? And what was it. This chap seems quite adamant and credible As to what he saw: |
So what do you reckon " this chap" saw?
What could be the answer to the mystery? Surely someone must have a suggestion re what happened |
Originally Posted by Dick Smith
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Surely someone must have a suggestion re what happened In the 57 years since, we haven’t invented silent VTOL and they sure as heck didn’t have it back then, so it’s either a weather balloon/lighter than air vehicle or a target drone that magically landed and took off again, or literally something from out of this world. The military and police involvement certainly doesn’t fit with the idea that it was a weather balloon from Williamstown. Back in those days, people were better at doing what they were told and keeping secrets. Whole Navy ship crews could be executed at sea and nobody would ever say a word. |
Or it all could be imagined!
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I’ve always been surprised that the creator of the Marree Man didn’t draw it with a Frenchman’s Cap.
No chance of getting ATC tower confirmation of sightings these days. Most of the towers don’t have any controllers in them. You could land an aircraft at Darwin military airport (our most important military base geographically) in the middle of the night, and no-one would even know. |
Don't tell the aliens!
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Earlier apparent UFO encounter.
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If the UFOs were flying in close formation ( within a few metres) with him how could ATC see them all separately on radar?
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith
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If the UFOs were flying in close formation ( within a few metres) with him how could ATC see them all separately on radar?
Pretty old tech none the less, so your point is probably still valid. |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
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Whole Navy ship crews could be executed at sea and nobody would ever say a word.
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Not executed….abducted !!
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What about those folk driving on the Nullarbor that claimed to be followed by a UFO and then an attempt to take the vehicle ,,,and the occupants.
Top hoax or a very frightening event.. Late 60s 70s ?? |
Originally Posted by aroa
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What about those folk driving on the Nullarbor that claimed to be followed by a UFO and then an attempt to take the vehicle ,,,and the occupants.
Top hoax or a very frightening event.. Late 60s 70s ?? It was 1988. |
Originally Posted by Eutychus
(Post 11514624)
Err, wait, what?
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Yes. As someone said previously-the human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith
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Yes. As someone said previously-the human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited
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Originally Posted by Hollywood1
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So, are you trying to tell us you don't believe in UFOs, Dick?
I swung past the area yesterday and took some photos. This park is in the direction from the school towards where the "craft" was seen, but there is conjecture over exactly where it landed (as in the distance from the school). I was advised that the trees / terrain that you see here is reminiscent of how it was back then. They have erected a flying-saucer in the playground as a memento of the day and did their best to make it look like what all the witnesses saw on that day back in 1966. Back to Dick's point though, what did they actually see? UFO's aside, there aren't really that many things that it could have actually been that match the visual description along with it's performance capabilities. As best as I can tell, back in the 1960's, weather balloons looked like the below. The target drone that they said it could have been would look something like the below too. Last I heard, target drones didn't do vertical takeoffs and landing, didn't have purple light and didn't make a humming sound. The Jindivic? They are a far cry from the flying "saucer" that everyone drew. You also have to question how they all drew the same thing and talked about purple lights. This is a good video about it: Melbourne’s Westall UFO sighting continues to fascinate | Herald Sun I find the comments interesting about the "4 or 5 planes" following it. The site is around 2.5 nauticals from Moorabbin airport. It was 11am on Wednesday the 6th April. I don't know how busy Moorabbin was back then, but it also seems a bit strange that there were actually 4-5 aircraft in the area at the time and of those that were nearby 4-5 of the pilots had the courage to head out of the circuit to Westall to follow them and take a closer look. Were those 4-5 plane circling around, or chasing the UFO? One of the girls said that there was more than one UFO, like 3 of them. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eb84f0ea95.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f70f42e128.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c8f4acb074.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ed9a6610d.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8967cc8ff0.jpg |
What if you just imagined that you had imagined that you had seen something?:rolleyes:
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Back in the fifties brother and self were responsible for the local paper reporting a UFO, dark night, torch with red cellophane over the lens, tied to the tail of a kite, as the tail swung about the light moved and seem to flash on and off. Simpletons we were back then, if we'd had TV wouldn't have been outside trying to amuse ourselves. ;)
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After having travelled bazillions of light years to get to Earth aliens got bored with anally probing Californians and departed via a flyby of a school at Moorabbin 🙄
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Originally Posted by Captain Dart
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After having travelled bazillions of light years to get to Earth aliens got bored with anally probing Californians and departed via a flyby of a school at Moorabbin 🙄
If they are going to land, they need to land somewhere and they don’t exactly know the difference between Moorabbin and anywhere else do they? Perhaps the reason that they haven’t come back again is because they did land at Moorabbin. I know pilots in fixed wing conventional aircraft that haven’t been back after landing there once too! |
OK, maybe it was these guys (the clicking pen reminds me of many a line check):
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Chillin
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