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I don't think it's that dramatic, Sunfish. I think it's more that the f*cktards running AirBP don't want to or know how to arrange installation of bowsers which accept credit cards.
I reckon the biggest favour AirBP could do for GA in Australia is to pull their bowsers out of wherever they happen to be installed, so that sensible businesses can install some 21st century fuel-delivery technology of the kind that exists at every other location. |
I have to agree LB.
This issue HAS to be fixed because it has a real operational downside that increases the cost of private air travel in that aircraft needing to transit these locations are either going to lose payload because they have to tanker fuel, make time consuming detours, or suffer reduced fuel safety margins beyond statutory minimums. In the meantime some can resort to jerrycans and unleaded petrol, but after the inevitable refueling accidents and spills, I expect most airports will ban that practice if they haven't already. |
Perhaps they're in cahoots with CASA to get rid of GA.
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I'll preface this comment by saying I used to spend many hundreds of thousands of dollars a year with BP for Castrol lubricants. I'm fully aware, first-hand, of how inept BP can be - especially their offshore finance team.
I'd suggest that an individual could apply for a sole trader ABN at no cost, put that on the AirBP application, and probably slide the application through. After all, you do run a business...Vanderlay Industries, was it? I doubt they're asking for P&L statements or anything for a small credit limit. Yes, they're a bunch of idiots who are clearly out of touch with their customers in general aviation - but what did you expect from a huge company, anyway... |
but what did you expect from a huge company, anyway... |
YBHI - an update on KRviator's handy map.
IOL now has an avgas bowser in Broken Hill.
per notamHANDLING SERVICES AND FACILITIES AMD AMD TO READ: 1. AIR BP: JET A1 MON-FRI 0800-1700 LOCAL. AH BY ARRANGEMENT. AVGAS SELF SERVE. BP CARD FACILITY. PHONE 0408 728 605 H24. 2. IOR AVIATION PTY LTD: JET A1 AND AVGAS 100LL AVBL H24 SELF-SERVE BOWSER - PAYMENT METHOD VIA IOR AVIATION TAG FOR ACCOUNT HOLDERS OR VIA THE FUEL CHARGE APP. JET A1 U/W AND O/W (REFUELLER VEHICLE) 0700-1600HRS M-F 0800-1600 WEEKENDS. A/H CALL OUT FEE APPLIES. IOR MOBILE PHONE CONTACT 0460 046 609 OR 1300 457 467 AMD ENR SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) FROM 03 122015 TO PERM |
Fuel Card App, that’s new to me, does it work ok
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Originally Posted by megle2
(Post 11431779)
Fuel Card App, that’s new to me, does it work ok
But it requires you to have a smart phone or tablet to install then use the app. Then you need the cellular network signal and hope to hell you haven't misplaced your phone or tablet or your battery hasn't been drained of its power. |
Originally Posted by Jenna Talia
(Post 11431840)
Yes it does.
But it requires you to have a smart phone or tablet to install then use the app. Then you need the cellular network signal and hope to hell you haven't misplaced your phone or tablet or your battery hasn't been drained of its power. If you haven’t got the other bits covered then you probably should be reevaluating whether you should be PIC. It’s a thoroughly reliable modern solution to a simple problem - where available. Every pilot should be familiar with it. |
Given that they are “without fail” installed where there is a cellular network signal, the bowsers can be credit card enabled and therefore do the usual confirmation of a pre-authorised amount for the fuel being purchased so that the f*cktards in AirBP don’t have to worry their pretty little heads about risk. No new carnet card application bull****. No new app bull****. Just 1990s complexity commerce sorted in the 1990s.
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11431887)
....Just 1990s complexity commerce sorted in the 1990s.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d2f2116620.png |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11431887)
Given that they are “without fail” installed where there is a cellular network signal, the bowsers can be credit card enabled and therefore do the usual confirmation of a pre-authorised amount for the fuel being purchased so that the f*cktards in AirBP don’t have to worry their pretty little heads about risk. No new carnet card application bull****. No new app bull****. Just 1990s complexity commerce sorted in the 1990s.
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Of course it's possible. And AirBP's competitors achieved the credit card-enabled outcome - one way or the other - many years ago.
Don't overthink this. It's just the product of AirBP being run by f*cktards, plain and simple. |
BP cards
I can help with Air Bp cards guys.If you require ,drop me an email [email protected]
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Grateful thanks to the President of the RV Aircraft Australia who personally negotiated a solution to the Air BP problem for all GA pilots in Australia! Furthermore, a 5c/L discount was obtained.
RVAA emails and SAAA emails have already gone to members. |
Originally Posted by 22N114E
(Post 11433584)
Grateful thanks to the President of the RV Aircraft Australia who personally negotiated a solution to the Air BP problem for all GA pilots in Australia! Furthermore, a 5c/L discount was obtained.
RVAA emails and SAAA emails have already gone to members. |
Lowes Air
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Originally Posted by Cloudee
(Post 11433598)
Give us a hint. What is the solution.
Originally Posted by The SAAA Email
Following the announcement of Skyfuel being acquired, we are pleased to announce that Lowes Air has joined with SAAA to offer SAAA Financial Members who currently hold a Skyfuel Air BP Card to apply for a Lowes Air card, irrespective if you hold an ABN or not.
Did you know that if you join the Lowes Air Fuel card program, you will still be using bp’s trusted fuel network, whilst still receiving your SAAA membership benefit of 5 cents per litre discount at the pump? Whilst there are some big changes occurring in the aviation fuel card business, we are excited to introduce Lowes Air to SAAA members – Their bulk delivery logistics cover New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, and Queensland and are backed by almost 50 years of history in Lowes Petroleum. No matter what state you are in, their Aviation card is nationally available through the airbp network. All the details about Lowes Air and how to apply for their card are here. Please note to be eligible for the 5 cents per litre discount, you must initiate an application via the SAAA website by logging into your membership and clicking here and complete the declaration. You will receive an email notification and the link to apply for a Lowes Air card will be detailed. We would like to extend our thanks and appreciation to SAAA Member Alan Carlisle OAM, for the introduction to Lowes Air. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 11433625)
If you're a financial member of the SAAA, you can apply (has to be via the SAAA website) through Lowes Air for an AirBP card. Sounds like what Skyfuel (was) and Steve Johnson (is :ok:) offering, but with the added bonus of a 5cpl discount carrying over.
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Another process requiring the equivalent of an application for a credit card, involving the disclosure of a whole bunch of important identity and financial details, and a copy of the physical signature of the applicant. I've already done that for the credit cards I have which are accepted by AirBP's competitors. Did I mention that AirBP is run by a bunch of f*cktards?
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