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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11358233)

Tis in Far North Queensland, but Bob Harris at thew Bob Harris Flying School is a truly great recommendation. He has a Belanca Decathlon.

Last time I spoke to him which was a while ago, he was looking at retirement? Still going?

PoppaJo - Bob is still going as strong as ever. He recently just did a fantastic low level Aeros Aeros display for Riverfire in Innisfai in the Decathlon. Sharp as a tack and somehow has found the fountain of youth elixir.

I’m surprised it hasn’t been floated yet - but my recommendation would be Jeremy Miller (UPRT Australia) at Archerfield.

I use him for peer review & as my coach at the AULT level - a bit of a passionate hobby of mine.

Great ability to teach, awesome / balanced / humble personality & he has a Decathlon, Pitts S2 & L300 Extra available.

I would not recommend initial TWU in a Pitts - suggest Decathlon to start, but no reason why after the initial a transition to Pitts couldn’t happen with a good mentor. Just makes the learning more “graduated” & less frustrating (for front & rear pilots!)

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Just don't imagine for 2 secs that, having obtained your TW endorsement in either of these, you could jump straight into a Pitts or an Extra (or even a Tiger Moth for that matter).. They merely herald the start of learning to fly all over again.

I didn't say that you could 'jump straight into' anything. Personally, I haven't jumped straight into any new TW type without training.

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Home builts can be used commercially these days?

They certainly can, the rule goes along the lines of can't be used for licence issue training but can be used for ratings, endorsements and FA's

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Originally Posted by Mr Mossberg (Post 11529332)

They certainly can, the rule goes along the lines of can't be used for licence issue training but can be used for ratings, endorsements and TA's

Do you have a reference for that rule please?

Easy going very nice bloke runs this school

I have to be careful not to be seen to be plugging any particular commercial organisations.

Never flew with Dan but worked with him for some years when he was with 32SQN on the Kingairs. Absolute gentleman and a lovely fellow to boot.

Likewise, djp.

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Do you have a reference for that rule please?

That will take me a little time to find, I'll get back to you.

Thanks. I think I’ve found it. 91.880 (d) Although elsewhere it states experimental aircraft not to be used for hire or reward.

CIVIL AVIATION SAFETY REGULATIONS 1998 - REG 91.880

Experimental aircraft--kinds of operations permitted For the purposes of subparagraph 91.875(2)(d)(ii), the kinds of operation are as follows:
(a) taking the aircraft to a place where maintenance on the aircraft is to be done;
(b) taking the aircraft from a place where maintenance on the aircraft has been done;
(c) testing the aircraft after maintenance;
(d) flying training (other than for the issue of a pilot licence);
(e) practice in flying the aircraft;
(f) carrying out a demonstration or test of the aircraft for sale;
(g) delivering the aircraft to a person under a contract of sale;
(h) for an amateur-built aircraft or a kit-built aircraft--flying training given to the aircraft's owner.

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Originally Posted by Cloudee (Post 11529562)

Thanks. I think I’ve found it. 91.880 (d) Although elsewhere it states experimental aircraft not to be used for hire or reward. .

For amateur-built aircraft I only see:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b8783358a.jpeg
I’m more concerned about the following one, especially spinning:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....86c231e8e.jpeg
Whenever I’ve asked to see those records I’ve been disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Flying Bear (Post 11529196)

Jeremy had a great reputation for this kind of training when he was here at Jandakot, We always recommend people go to him, worth the flight to Adelaide

A bit out there - I was offered to do a TW endorsement in a C152 Texas Taildragger conversion at a fairly good price.
Any advantage/disadvantage of doing that there before transitioning to a Super D?

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Originally Posted by megan (Post 11528903)

What requirements does the trainer have to fill, commercial & instructor rating?

Minimum of a PPLA, Flight Instructor Rating with design feature and flight activity endorsements.

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Originally Posted by zegnaangelo (Post 11564216)

A bit out there - I was offered to do a TW endorsement in a C152 Texas Taildragger conversion at a fairly good price.
Any advantage/disadvantage of doing that there before transitioning to a Super D?

The Super Decathlon ground handling is easier than a C152 Texas Taildragger.

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Originally Posted by Kundry (Post 11528335)

Curtis Aviation - not had much luck with them, uptight mob, not really flexible. In my mind, the Citabria is an uninspiring machine to do a TW endorsement in. You will definitely earn yourself a proper sign off in one though - you can't see over the cowling on the ground and the rudder control in the air to stay coordinated is a bit of a challenge.

Wings out West (Dubbo) - Easy going very nice bloke runs this school. He will take care of your training, unlike factories in the cities. Does ab-initio in Cubs! The machines are fun to fly and the home strip is fun. Machines regoed RAAUS so need to do a GA conversion after he signs you off though. The cubs have heel brakes and require S-turns to see over the cowling, other than that, very simple machines to fly that won't get you into much trouble. I fit into it like a glove and found it the most fun TW type I've flown so far.

Advanced Aviation Training (Redcliffe) - RV6 rents out dual relatively cheap and is fun to fly. Bit squirrely on the ground and a responsive machine in the air. Will definitely give you a well earned TW rating. The mob there are congenial, agreeable people.

One thing that might make the jump from a Citabria to a Pitts hard is the open cockpit (if you're in a model with one). Also the massive amounts of left turning tendencies when taking off. Also the slip needed when landing to see the runway.

There’s very little difference between a Cub and Citabria in terms of forward vision and aileron / rudder coordination. Dan now operates a Citabria, so can also complete GA TW certification.