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Stan dard 17th Dec 2022 08:19

Cobham Special Mission
 
Gday,
Just wondering what the lifestyle and pay is like at Cobham Special mission these days? Has it changed after the sale of the business?
Cheers,
Stan dard

TinFoilhat2 19th Dec 2022 02:47

Keen to know salaries and benefits as well for both captains and FO’s as well as the above OP’s queries. Last I heard about 3 or 4 years ago an FO salary was about 95K which lets face it is rubbish. Any improvements since then?

Kiwi_as 19th Dec 2022 23:52

It’s all on the fair work website

Icarus2001 20th Dec 2022 01:16

Well if they want to crew flights to keep their contract obligations they will need to lift their game.

Stan dard 5th Jan 2023 09:05

Thanks for all the replies. I still haven't been able to get a figure on FO and CA salary and lifestyle, if anyone can elaborate further, either on the forum or PM, it would be appreciated.

Brakerider 5th Jan 2023 19:25

2019 Salaries

DHC8 Capt Base Year 1 - $135641

DHC8 FO Base Year 1 - $81385

spektrum 6th Jan 2023 04:08

Any captains still on a FIFO roster like some were pre covid? Any idea if things will get so dire they will go back to entertaining FIFO crews?

717tech 6th Jan 2023 04:40


Originally Posted by spektrum (Post 11360642)
Any captains still on a FIFO roster like some were pre covid? Any idea if things will get so dire they will go back to entertaining FIFO crews?

I read in a union news article recently that management are supposedly considering FIFO again, but nothing beyond that...

kjvmw 7th Jan 2023 00:24

They are already recruiting for FIFO captains. There was a 0.8 FTE DEC role advertised before Christmas. The border force is severely short of pilots.

Buswinker 8th Jan 2023 09:15

Any word on the other positions eg spotters? Doesn’t reek of a healthy workplace culture with the vacancy levels but I concede it could be other factors

Duck Pilot 4th Feb 2023 09:38

If they done the useless sim assessment in the Dash 8 sim opposed to the 604 they would have a few more experienced Dash 8 Captains….

Their train set!

the_rookie 4th Feb 2023 10:09

So they should waste money on Sim assessments? Makes sense

Climb150 4th Feb 2023 20:25


Originally Posted by the_rookie (Post 11379790)
So they should waste money on Sim assessments? Makes sense

I did an assessment in the 604 sim a few years ago. Most disorganized assessment I have ever had. My sim buddy was a dash 8 check Capt who knew less about flying jets than me (I had a little 320 sim time).

No profile or speeds were given (this is on purpose I was told) so I just had to wing it. My sim buddy missed flap and gear call outs leaving me having to fly the sim single pilot.

I was very annoyed by the end and they both knew it. Out of the three of us who had sims I was the only one who got a no. The two that started both left during training to better operators.

After the other two had dropped out they then offered me the job. I politely declined.

Icarus2001 12th Feb 2024 03:21

Any updates on this operation. Now fully Leidos branded I see.

172heavy 16th Feb 2024 07:55


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11595208)
Any updates on this operation. Now fully Leidos branded I see.

STNR NC

Aviator_Aus 18th Feb 2024 04:23

Question regarding their recent job ad - wanted Dash 8 captains to have an ATPL theory credit.

Would they hire a captain who ticks the flying experience requirements but doesn't have the ATPL theory credit or does anyone know someone who is a Dash 8 captain with them and doesn't have their subjects completed? Are there any progression opportunities for their FO's who don't have the theory credit?

Interested to hear your thoughts!

Duck Pilot 18th Feb 2024 23:49

You require an ATPL to operate the Dash 8 as a Captain, you can't command it with a CPL.

As my old theory instructor used to say, don't leave home without the ATPL theory passes.


Aviator_Aus 19th Feb 2024 00:51


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 11599737)
You require an ATPL to operate the Dash 8 as a Captain, you can't command it with a CPL.

As my old theory instructor used to say, don't leave home without the ATPL theory passes.

100% agree with you mate. In the process of doing mine at the moment. I was just curious as to why they were hiring direct entry captains with the ATPL theory credit only, not the licence. Check out their recent job ad 👍

Sword_2 19th Feb 2024 06:21


Originally Posted by Aviator_Aus (Post 11599762)
100% agree with you mate. In the process of doing mine at the moment. I was just curious as to why they were hiring direct entry captains with the ATPL theory credit only, not the licence. Check out their recent job ad 👍

You need the theory credit (+ all the other requirements) so that when they do your type rating, they can incorporate the ATPL flight test into it, so you can operate Left seat, (once your ATPL has been issued).

172heavy 21st Feb 2024 22:57


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 11599737)
You require an ATPL to operate the Dash 8 as a Captain, you can't command it with a CPL.

As my old theory instructor used to say, don't leave home without the ATPL theory passes.

correct, however, regardless of if you have a cpl with credit or a full atpl leidos will require you to do an atpl flight test before you take command of a dash or 604.


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