Cherokee 6 at Moorabbin
The ATSB final report on the Cherokee 6 EFATO at Moorabbin last year last just been released. Unfortunately it's scarily inconclusive:
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2021-024/ |
Pilot hours? Hours on type?
Missing. |
Originally Posted by PiperCameron
(Post 11296979)
Unfortunately it's scarily inconclusive:
I also note this disclaimer: “Decisions regarding whether to conduct an investigation, and the scope of an investigation, are based on many factors, including the level of safety benefit likely to be obtained from an investigation. For this occurrence, a limited-scope investigation was conducted in order to produce a short investigation report, and allow for greater industry awareness of findings that affect safety and potential learning opportunities.“ |
CASA SAFETY MESSAGE
“Maintain glide speed and use no more than a moderate bank angle…”
So, what AOB is best? |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 11297047)
That’s because they were unable to work out what happened, however if you read carefully you’ll see mention that the pilot may have pulled back the mixture, which fits perfectly with all other evidence.
I also note this disclaimer: “Decisions regarding whether to conduct an investigation, and the scope of an investigation, are based on many factors, including the level of safety benefit likely to be obtained from an investigation. For this occurrence, a limited-scope investigation was conducted in order to produce a short investigation report, and allow for greater industry awareness of findings that affect safety and potential learning opportunities.“ Talk on the airport's active rumour mill mere hours after the accident had already reached the conclusion that maybe mixture was the issue.. and ISTM that all this report does is confirm inconclusively what we didn't know already, maybe. I, for one, was hoping for better. |
Originally Posted by Runaway Gun
(Post 11297049)
“Maintain glide speed and use no more than a moderate bank angle…”
So, what AOB is best? |
The problem is that pilots are scared to use more than about 20 degrees angle of bank - often in normal flight. Then when an emergency happens they freak out.
|
Originally Posted by PiperCameron
(Post 11297378)
I, for one, was hoping for better. |
Originally Posted by Runaway Gun
(Post 11297391)
The problem is that pilots are scared to use more than about 20 degrees angle of bank - often in normal flight. Then when an emergency happens they freak out.
I got a laugh out of this line on the MEL GENMET yesterday: "Windshear is unlikely as strong winds aloft are expected to be mixing down to the surface". Gee, what wonderful news! it's not just crap up there, but it's crap down here also!! At least the guys/gals at the BOM are good at positive spin. :ok: |
Originally Posted by PiperCameron
(Post 11297403)
I got a laugh out of this line on the MEL GENMET yesterday: "Windshear is unlikely as strong winds aloft are expected to be mixing down to the surface". Gee, what wonderful news! it's not just crap up there, but it's crap down here also!! At least the guys/gals at the BOM are good at positive spin.
Not sure that this would meet my definition of 'crap' weather; if the headwind is straight down the runway it could be great flying conditions. Don't stop learning... |
Agreed, a strong steady wind down to the surface usually makes for much easier flying conditions than light winds at the surface with a stronger wind aloft. My local airport is in a valley and it's not uncommon in southeasterly conditions for it to be 35kt up top and nothing at the surface first thing in the morning. Usually accompanied by clear blue skies which has led many a pilot to depart on a seemingly mint day only to find it's bumpy as hell and they come back an hour later to a 25kt crosswind!
|
Originally Posted by Stickshift3000
(Post 11297438)
Windshear was unlikely due to the prevailing wind conditions - potentially useful info for pilots in gusty conditions.
Not sure that this would meet my definition of 'crap' weather; if the headwind is straight down the runway it could be great flying conditions. Don't stop learning... I'm not a fan of flying in Moderate turbulence although I did take a flying friend up in it anyway, because (a) it was otherwise CAVOK and (b) the best it was likely to be for a week or so and (c) it was good practice - although I draw the line at Severe turbulence.. |
Originally Posted by PiperCameron
(Post 11297467)
although I draw the line at Severe turbulence..
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 10:03. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.